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Most hunting rifles in the UK now use a moderator. Early ones had all the subtlety of a length of scaffolding. A lot of the new models that have come out in the last 18 months are a lot more aesthetically pleasing and more importantly nice and light (made from titanium). There is even one that I am told has the shape of a sex toy. They take out the bang, but not the crack. You still need to wear hearing protection if shooting shooting more than a round or two. Most new rifles now with an 18 or 20" barrel ready threaded for a moderator and that length definitely benefits from one. But a 25" barrel is quiet enough with one. Many landowners now insist that moderators are used to avoid others knowing that hunting is taking place. | |||
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I bought one. It took forever to get approved. I told the gun shop the thread the barrel of a custom 300 Win Mag. When I went to pick it up, they threaded both the 300 and a new 26 Nosler. I thought well, WTF. I got the suppressor. Off I went. I fired a couple of shots . It was indeed MUCH quieter. The day came to go hunting the first time using the suppressor. We were doing what we call running and gunning for hogs. Basically going from feeder to feeder and stalking them. I HATED it. The balance was gone. I could not carry the gun on my shoulder. Since then, I have used it several times in a stand. One day, I smacked a big hog. DRT. The others moved off and came right back. I smacked another. DRT. Then another. It works fine from a stand PROVIDED there is enough room. In tight quarters like a small shooting house , it is just too long. These days running and gunning, I leave it off. It is a massive pain in the ass. I use ear plugs. I use it sometimes in the stand. What I use it with most often is a short barrelled 300 Blackout. Some have said cut the barrel on the 300 Win mag. Not a chance in hell am I cutting the barrel on a rifle that expensive. I am wondering why I let them thread it. Do I regret buying it? No, but I will not buy another. If you love them, good for you. I am happy for you. | |||
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This is very much the experience we have seen over. They have been in use for about 20 years and we have a whole generation of stalkers who think that a front heavy rifle is the norm. They add on a bipod and large 56mm objective 30mm tubed scope and then have to carry a set of sticks to support it for a standing shot. | |||
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I hunted a bit this fall with a Barrett Fieldcraft with a Silencerco Omega mounted on the factory-threaded 18.5” barrel. Due to the short barrel, the overall length of this combo was very manageable. | |||
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I have been told by ATF that you cannot silence a pistol or rifle that has a MV of over 900 FPS. I don't know the only silencer I have shot was on a 22 rifle and pistol, and all you could hear was the action working..My question then would be does a silencer just lower the noise level or completely void it.. Brakes I have come to like but only in the last few months, probably age has something to do with that. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Way back..I received a purchase order from a law enforcement agency to make a silencer for a Hi Standard semi auto 22 pistol...Yeah..really! I was provided with plans that called for drilling holes perpendicular to the bore..This bled off enough velocity to make it sub sonic, but the action still worked with 22 LR ammo. I didn't ask about the application for this project | |||
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As Heym rightly says they are almost de rigeur here in the UK. Personally, except on a small bore for rabbit shooting, I'd sooner never shoot a rifle again than use one. But in all likelihood they will come a time in UK where there will be very few places that will allow you to book paid stalking (hunting) if your rifle isn't so equipped. I am an old stupid dinosaur! All my rifles have always had iron sights as well as 'scopes if they have been fitted with 'scopes. A bare hunting taper barrel just looks all wrong IMHO. | |||
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I really like my .22LR can with subsonic ammo. As far as using full power loads in a centerfire and using a can, I'll leave that to the suppressor aficionado's. For me weight and balance trump decibels in a hunting rifle. Ray, to answer your question. A suppressor is very effective until the projectile breaks the speed of sound. After that there is a sonic crack introduced on discharge that adds enough decibels that IMO hearing protection is still required. That said I will certainly agree that sound levels and recoil are reduced with a suppressor . But, at the expense of weight and balance. Some like it, others don't and you can put me in the former. I personally wouldn't trade a light weight properly balanced rifle for one that's slightly quieter on discharge and I personally wouldn't consider hunting subsonic loads in a centerfield hunting rifle unless the situation was very unique. -------------------------------------------- Well, other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play? | |||
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Agreed. Have the been running one on a fieldcraft as well. Balances correctly. Would never dream of hunting one with a longer standard hunting barrel. Mac | |||
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Duane, I had one of those, we used them to shoot out street lights so we could do survailance in lit up neighbor hoods..We didn't shoot anyone with them. The most fun we had was groups of homeboys Bsing under a street light and pot the light and watch them scatter swatting their heads. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Making a silencers illegal in the US was another bandaid legislation to get votes, just like any firearms legislation, its a big rip off anytime you make honest people criminals to futher your political future, ala 21 years old to purchase your first 22 rifle as young men have been doing of years at very young ages..It sucks..legislation without thought is always wrong. Take every gun in the USA away from us and the criminals will beat us to death with freaking soup bowls. So many politicians are the lowest form of vermin on the planet.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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