I don't know if "cheek weld" is the proper term for where your face meets a stock, but whatever its called, after all of these years of reading about it, and of course shooting, I am now coming to the conclusion that most stocks being built today do not allow for proper cheek weld.

It seems as though when I throw any rifle up to my shoulder, much of the stock does not contact my shoulder, and I have to bend my head way down in order to get on the stock.

In contrast, the Pre-64 Winchester Model 70 stock, as built they way they built it, was just downright ugly, but when you put one up to your shoulder and get on the stock they line right up and work very well indeed.

Anybody have photos of custom guns where you specified that the stock be made somewhat like the pre-64 Model 70 stock.

WHICH pre-64 stock? Later ones had a Monte Carlo while the Super Grades had several different-shaped cheekpieces.

This is probably not what you mean but here goes anyway.

I made this 20 years ago to fit my own face and didn't care about the Monte Carlo being non-PC.
Regards, Joe

Thanks! From a blank, copied (as near as possible from photos) from the old Fajen Monte Carlo Classic. Forearm is moderately pear-shaped and slightly concave on the bottom & sides, so as to give a good full grip while fooling the eye into thinking it's slimmer & trimmer.

PG is somewhat smaller in cross-section at the bottom than my usual since I had to make it match the small-size trap-door grip cap, but the grip pull is my usual 3 3/4" plus. The comb nose just barely clears the bottom of the cocking piece with a moderately-sized Monte Carlo that slopes downward toward the comb nose. These days I'm making my comb noses with little to no fluting, this stock with deep fluting was made long ago.

The front of the cheekpiece & shadow line flows into and interrupts the checkering pattern a la Dale Goens, in fact this is one of his fleurs-&-ribbons patterns. The rear of the cheekpiece & its shadow line taper into the butt with a reverse curve, a combination of Ed Shulin's and my own design.

Bottom of the stock next to the trigger is slimmed & tapered & relieved & flared on both sides similarly to a rifle with straddle floorplate although this one doesn't straddle.

These days I like the rear sight placed further forward almost even with the forend tip junction, and a straighter unscalloped bolt handle along with minimal comb nose fluting.

This rifle is far far too busy, with 3 trap doors & fancy furniture & engraving & multiple spare sights & other goodies hidden inside the various traps, but building it kept me safely off the streets & out of trouble for a long time (grin). Fortunately I don't get tired of fondling it while waiting for that 99-pointer to wander by.....

Next one will be better though.
Regards, Joe

I think you get a much better cheek weld using a Mig than a Tig!

True and false. Stocks today are still being built for open sights which are not showing up on the guns. Combine this issue with oversized objectives or see thru mounts and there is something called a chin weld. :-)

22 WRF, check some of these Palma rifles on this link to 6mmBR.
Palma Basics article

I think it supports your idea of what cheek weld is, and I can tell you Palma shooters feel it's pretty important.
I have tons of sporters and there are VERY few that allow you to have your cheek on the stock and be looking through the scope. I have had a few rigs built where I had the stocks built so that I would have my cheek on the stock while looking through the scope, but they aren't real attractive to some of the 'traditionalists' Here is a Sako that I had done:



Here is a Sauer 202 that I had the same stock geometry built on.

I was just talking to my smith/gunmaker about stock fit,yesterday.I am glad he is taking measures to assure the stock shape fits me just perfect.Aside from providing him with my LOP measurements,I was asked to trace the shape of my hand on a piece of paper and mail it to him.This,I think,will determine the distance the grip is compared to the trigger.The thing that I liked most,was that he will be sending me my barreled action in a stock molded out of cheap wood,that way I can try it and if needed,changes can me made to the shape and we can work towards something that fits me best.I was told that because the rifle will be used with open sights only,we are "going a little lower".Also,the grip will be ore extended and shotgun like.

The Sako 75, deluxe cheek piece works well for me when I look through a 56mm objective.I can't remember how it would work without such a scope.One thing that is for sure,and that is, one size stock and cheek piece does not fit all.

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Originally posted by shootaway:
The Sako 75, deluxe cheek piece works well for me when I look through a 56mm objective.I can't remember how it would work without such a scope.One thing that is for sure,and that is, one size stock and cheek piece does not fit all.

True that.

I have SEVERAL Sako 75's, and I wouldn't come close to having my cheek on the stock and be able to look through a 56mm objective mounted as low as it possibley could be. It is interesting how many adjustable cheekpieces are used on serious sniper rigs, getting into the same position consistently is so important to consistency in general, and having a place to firmly place your cheek on the stock while having a proper sight picture is clearly of importance.

I think what I am going to do is buy those leather pads that one can lace up and fit to the buttstock. That way I will have a place to rest my head that feels comfortable.