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Buidling a custom .500 B&M so, Win 70 Classic CF vs Kumber 8400 Action?
10 September 2016, 20:46
SAFARIKIDBuidling a custom .500 B&M so, Win 70 Classic CF vs Kumber 8400 Action?
Used market Kimber is about $200 more,both in SS...SO,any advantages or improvements with one or the other? Will be a WSM size action (ShortAction?) 500BM is a cut Ultra Mag case and necked up to .500

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10 September 2016, 20:56
xausaquote:
500BM is a cut Ultra Mag case and necked up to .500
Sounds a lot like my .500 Jeffrey. I built mine on a BRNO 602 action and it is a honey.
10 September 2016, 20:58
BiebsTom, if you want the most power, go to a 500 MDM. It's a full-size 300 RUM opened up to 50 caliber.
10 September 2016, 21:02
BiebsHere's my 500 MDM, built on a Win 70 CRF action with a 20" barrel. You can get 2,450 fps with a 500gr bullet.
10 September 2016, 21:06
SAFARIKIDNice,but this is a very Short Action / Case....will have 16" barrel ,all SS....
I did many 500s incident Jeffery..took a few buff with it and also a Brownie...was 6.5 pds scoped ..all SS,16"..was throwing 570s at 2200 If I remember correctly !
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10 September 2016, 21:09
SAFARIKIDVry familiar with it but want a neat Lil 6 pd rig and short action !..it does 2150 with 500s! This is one that they did..I LIKES IT!
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10 September 2016, 21:11
SAFARIKIDBEAUTIFUL! AHR or BIJOU?
LOVE THE SHORTER BARRELS!
GOOD JOB

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10 September 2016, 21:15
SAFARIKIDSince we on dynamite in small packages,here is a pair I had made with 16" barrels by Bijou..
.600AHR upper and .500 Jeff lower
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11 September 2016, 05:56
BiebsI remember those rifles. Have you talked to Michael458? He's not on AR anymore, but he developed the B&M cartridges. SSK makes them, and Accurate Innovations supplies the steel-bedded stocks. Quite a reasonable build, actually.
11 September 2016, 06:07
Idaho SharpshooterTwo things:
1. buy RUM brass first, so you actually have some in hand.
2. the kimbers I have actually handled needed a 375 H&H pushed base first into the magazine to fit like a 721. They are not a true magnum length action.
11 September 2016, 07:41
LionHunterStick with the Winchester WSM as the donor. It's what they build the B&Ms on and anything else may present problems.
Mine is a 458B&M on a Win WSM SS Mdl 70. I had a 20" bbl installed but would opt for 18" if doing it today. It is a fantastic rifle and with proper loads has become a one rifle battery. I have made or have been present for one shot kills on Ele, Hippo, Croc, Lion, Leopard, Zebra (2), etc.
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11 September 2016, 07:57
SAFARIKIDThanks for the info..well taken if I decide to do this (Again!)

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11 September 2016, 09:53
Paul TruccoloI too have the .500 MDM, similar to Beib's rifle pictured above, just not near the fancy timber.
I easily get 2450fps with 450gn C.E.B's and shot/stopped a lot of Buff and feral Oxen with mine, very effectively.
The .500 B&M is the intermediate between the .50 B&M and the big .500 MDM.
A very well thought-out and useful chambering.
16-18" barrels are all that's needed but personally I still prefer 20".
I too recommend the Winchester platform.
The coned breech allows reliable feed and function with the "flat-nosed" Safari Raptors.
I'm not that familiar with the kimbers.
Best to talk to the good folks at SSK.
Best of luck with your build.
11 September 2016, 10:36
capowardquote:
Originally posted by SAFARIKID:
Used market Kimber is about $200 more,both in SS...SO,any advantages or improvements with one or the other? Will be a WSM size action (ShortAction?) 500BM is a cut Ultra Mag case and necked up to .500
Not sure what the actual magazine length is for the Kimber but the M70 WSM action has a 3.1" internal magazine length and that is what the 50 B&M (2.25" case length) was designed for. Save the $200 and go with the M70 WSM action.
Jim
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