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SDH in Sports Afield
25 December 2018, 02:46
dave wesbrookSDH in Sports Afield
Steve,I always that your column was to cover custom guns,not to do infomertials for your seminars. ?????
Dave
25 December 2018, 06:45
dave wesbrookttt
25 December 2018, 06:52
MJinesWhy do you always seem to be irritated and in a bad mood? I hope Christmas cheers you up a bit.
Mike
25 December 2018, 08:56
dave wesbrookMike,
Steve gets paid by Sports Afield for writing his columns,so why should he be paid for promoting his seminare ???
25 December 2018, 09:30
JBrownDave, I have supported and defended you many times in the past but this time you are way out of line. SA pays Steven to write his column. They have the option to edit or print it as they see fit.
If you don't like what Steven writes you should contact him directly or contact SA. Calling him out here on AR is inane.
Jason
"You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core."
_______________________
Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.
Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.
-Jason Brown
25 December 2018, 09:52
ismithSweet, I'll have to check it out.
What force or guile could not subdue,
Thro' many warlike ages,
Is wrought now by a coward few,
For hireling traitor's wages.
25 December 2018, 20:10
kurtbeHave a nice Christmas Mr.Wesbrook
25 December 2018, 20:28
matt salmThe way I see it is SDH is promoting the custom rifle/firearm. His seminars do exactly that also. His seminars seem to always be sold out/filled every year so it doesn’t seem he is gaining other than promoting the custom firearms...something he seems to really enjoy doing. More awareness for custom blued steel and fine wood firearms is a good thing anyway you look at it....some getting interested in it might even buy a great stockmaking book written by you...what’s the problem?
Shoot straight, shoot often.
Matt
25 December 2018, 21:02
craigsterquote:
Originally posted by JBrown:
Dave, I have supported and defended you many times in the past but this time you are way out of line. SA pays Steven to write his column. They have the option to edit or print it as they see fit.
If you don't like what Steven writes you should contact him directly or contact SA. Calling him out here on AR is inane.
wesbrook being wesbrook.
25 December 2018, 21:54
dave wesbrookThe above is why I seldom post on AR. Too many haters.
Not one of you know of my 30 year friendship with Steve and all the help I gave him.I got him his first and only writing assignment for American Rifleman and helped him with his photography.If you look in the back of his book you will see his acknowledgment of my help on his photography.
But it was all one sided.In 30 years I never ask one thing of him until I ask him to use one picture of mine in Sports Afield and he refused because he would not be paid for the picture.Our relationship was destroyed at that point.
David L Wesbrook
25 December 2018, 23:19
marley7x57Interesting read here....which seems to explain the original post.
quote:
Originally posted by dave wesbrook:
The above is why I seldom post on AR. Too many haters.
Not one of you know of my 30 year friendship with Steve and all the help I gave him.I got him his first and only writing assignment for American Rifleman and helped him with his photography.If you look in the back of his book you will see his acknowledgment of my help on his photography.
But it was all one sided.In 30 years I never ask one thing of him until I ask him to use one picture of mine in Sports Afield and he refused because he would not be paid for the picture.Our relationship was destroyed at that point.
David L Wesbrook
26 December 2018, 00:18
470Evansquote:
Originally posted by marley7x57:
Interesting read here....which seems to explain the original post.
quote:
Originally posted by dave wesbrook:
The above is why I seldom post on AR. Too many haters.
Not one of you know of my 30 year friendship with Steve and all the help I gave him.I got him his first and only writing assignment for American Rifleman and helped him with his photography.If you look in the back of his book you will see his acknowledgment of my help on his photography.
But it was all one sided.In 30 years I never ask one thing of him until I ask him to use one picture of mine in Sports Afield and he refused because he would not be paid for the picture.Our relationship was destroyed at that point.
David L Wesbrook
Sounds like it.
26 December 2018, 01:43
MJinesquote:
Originally posted by dave wesbrook:
Too many haters.
. . . ironic to say the least.
Mike
26 December 2018, 03:05
butchlambertI will say that Dave helped me when I needed to design a fixture to help my photographer friend in firearms photography. He was very helpful.
Is he an asshole, not to me he hasn't been.
26 December 2018, 05:00
dave wesbrookHey Mike ,shove it. All I really know about you is that you have a blood lust about killing elephants.You claim 50 or so and all they happened to do was to walk in front of your sites.
Every study done on elephants shows that they are inteligent and feel emotions. you but you don't care,you just want to kill them!!!. You make me sick Mike!!!
26 December 2018, 05:22
marley7x57Most interesting thread out outside the political forum!
Let's see-
1. Mike has gotten on the OP bad side ala SDH.
2. Elephants "just walk" in front of the gun sights. All there is to it to kill one!
3. A stockmaker is appalled that someone shoots legal game with a rifle.
WOW!!!!
26 December 2018, 05:41
dave wesbrookNot about being legal game,only about the number he has slaughtered.
26 December 2018, 06:13
Aaron LittleI’ve had much better luck keeping relationships unconditional.
26 December 2018, 06:15
A7DaveTo be honest, I also thought it was an infomercial, but hell, almost everything else in SA is an infomercial for various outfitters or the latest gun. BFD, SDH gets to tout his seminars. Compared to Guns and Ammo, SA is an outlet for scholarly theses. Good for him. I hope to attend his seminars in the future.
I bought, enjoyed, and use your book, Mr. Westbrook, but if you offered seminars like SDH, I'd pass. You may be a wonderful guy in person, but online you come across as a dick. FWIW.
Oh. And the one section I always read start to finish in SA is SDH's column.
Dave
26 December 2018, 06:18
marley7x57Sorry, no jealously, or anger, here because someone has the wherewithal to hunt Elephants to that extent or to enjoy any expensive hobby, sport, or endeavor to their full enjoyment.
quote:
Originally posted by dave wesbrook:
Not about being legal game,only about the number he has slaughtered.
26 December 2018, 09:06
MJinesNot sure why you seem to stay in a perpetually sour mood. That’s your problem not mine. Oh, and regarding the number of elephant I have hunted, I only wish that I had been able to hunt fifty elephant. Maybe someday. Why would you even start this thread?
Mike
26 December 2018, 09:28
Lee BaumgartAt one point I was interested in buying Mr Wesbrook's stockmaking book, but after seeing the attitude of his posts on AR I decided to pass.
Lee
26 December 2018, 23:12
squeezenhopeI have the book, I bought it before seeing some of his crazy ass post here on AR.
27 December 2018, 03:41
dave wesbrookI have never posted anything on AR that I can not fully document.So where are these crazy posts?
27 December 2018, 22:40
squeezenhopeMr. Wesbrook, you always seen to be looking for a fight. How is what Hughes writes in his column any of your business??
27 December 2018, 22:57
sharps4590Sports Afield is still in business? I haven't seen or read that magazine in decades. I was a regular subscriber back in the 60's and 70's until our paths diverged.
Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father but through me". John 14:6
28 December 2018, 00:30
bluefishI remember seeing a 338-06 Mr. Wesbrook did on a Mauser G33/40. It was exquisite looking. A true example of the gunmaker's art.
You're pulling people into something which appears on its face to be more private than public Wesbrook and no one can seem to understand why. There are many ways to effectively market your considerable skills but this is not one of them. Perhaps you and Mr. Hughes ought to have your tete a tete in private?
28 December 2018, 23:15
dave wesbrookSqeezenhope,
How is what I write any of yours?
29 December 2018, 00:58
bluefishUhh, because you are publicizing it on this forum which has a worldwide audience. In so doing you take a private matter and invite others to respond. See my post above. I'll ask again. Isn't this really a private matter between you and SDH?
29 December 2018, 02:00
dave wesbrookSteve doesn't answer my e-mails or pick up the phone when I try to call him.
Kind of hard to settle it in private.
29 December 2018, 02:08
bt8897Funny when I had an issue with someone on this forum a while back and reached out to members to try to get in touch with him you called me an ass hole.
Keep in mind I wasn't calling him out, just trying to get in touch
29 December 2018, 02:22
bluefishPretty sure the US Mail still delivers.
29 December 2018, 03:58
setters5quote:
one of us
posted December 24, 2018 4:46 PM
Steve,I always that your column was to cover custom guns,not to do infomertials for your seminars. ?????
Dave
If his editors don't care, why should we?
29 December 2018, 05:38
dogcatSounds like a prom date gone bad?
Is someone here channeling the spirit of Idahosharpshooter aka Rich? Why the vitriol?
29 December 2018, 07:07
craigsterquote:
Originally posted by dave wesbrook:
I have never posted anything on AR that I can not fully document.So where are these crazy posts?
The Ken Howell/Alerta Canuck thread comes to mind. You are, however, fulling documenting the fact that you're an arrogant asshole. Keep up the good work, it's entertaining.
29 December 2018, 10:29
ForrestBquote:
Originally posted by dave wesbrook:
Steve doesn't answer my e-mails or pick up the phone when I try to call him.
Surprising as it may be to you, this thread is unlikely to change the status quo.
______________________________
"Truth is the daughter of time."
Francis Bacon
29 December 2018, 20:38
Duane Wiebe (CG&R)I pull up this thread every couple days...Is it ever going to end?
29 December 2018, 22:48
dave wesbrookIt ends now Duane.I'll not post on AR again.There isn't anyone on AR whose opinion means anything to me.
30 December 2018, 01:23
SDHTo All; I wish you a Happy, Healthy and Fruitful New Year!
ACGG Life Member, since 1985
30 December 2018, 02:03
craigsterquote:
Originally posted by SDH:
To All; I wish you a Happy, Healthy and Fruitful New Year!
And to you as well !