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If you built a trio, based on the Sako actions, models L461, L579 and L61R. What calibers would you choose for them? | ||
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In Finland trio would be .222 Rem, 308 win and .300 Win Mag. These caliber are here most popular in those actions. But my own choice would be totally different... | |||
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My Africa battery consists of: 30-06 375 h & h 458 Lott All are LH CRF M70's w/sights, but the Sako actions would be just lovely. I have a L461 in 257 AI for deer and pronghorn. For North America, do you need a varmint rifle, and will you be hunting brown bear? | |||
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I'd likely go 280 Rem 338 Win mag 416 Rem mag But 7x57 300 H+H 416 Taylor Would be "cool" Rod -------------------------------- "A hunter should not choose the cal, cartridge, and bullet that will kill an animal when everything is right; rather, he should choose ones that will kill the most efficiently when everything goes wrong" Bob Hagel | |||
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I like the "triple deuce" on the little Sako (I have 2 of them) While the 308 would make sense for the medium action, I'd probably opt for a 7mm-08. The 300 Win Mag would be my choice for the big gun. This is very similar to what a previous poster suggested. Zeke | |||
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Assume the L61R is a standard action and not the L61R Magnum? Based on the action sizes, I recommended you stick with rounds that fit nicely. For the L461 I'd go with a 223 Rem For the L579 I'd go with a 308 Win For the L61R depends on what you are hunting and where. If not DG, then I'd do a 338 Win Mag or 9.3x62 or even the 30-06 or 35 Whelen. I assume you could open the bolt face for the 338 Win Mag. If you are doing DG, then you could go with a 416 Taylor. "Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" -- Ronald Reagan "Ignorance of The People gives strength to totalitarians." Want to make just about anything work better? Keep the government as far away from it as possible, then step back and behold the wonderment and goodness. | |||
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.222 / .223 6.5x47 Lapua / 7-08 AI / .308 .300 win mag / 9,3x62 / .375 Ruger | |||
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If I was doing it today it be a .223, 6.5 / 7x57 and a .375H&H. For me that would cover most of my hunting situations, mice to moose. --- John | |||
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270 Winchester 9.3X64 458 Lott short and fat and hard to get at, hit like a hammer and never been hit back. | |||
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You guys need to go read about the size of these actions - most of the cartridge trios listed here will not work. "Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" -- Ronald Reagan "Ignorance of The People gives strength to totalitarians." Want to make just about anything work better? Keep the government as far away from it as possible, then step back and behold the wonderment and goodness. | |||
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223, 308, 9,3x62 Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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270 Winchester 280 Remington 30-06 Springfield Or maybe a 7mm-06... | |||
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L461 6x45, I built one for my youngest son and now I have to have one too! This rifle/cartridge combo is 100% pure joy! L579 .308, I had one and shot it to the point of boredom (5000+ rds)then rebarreled it and traded it off. Now I need one again. You can't go wrong on this combo. L61R either 338/06 or 375H&H depending upon where and what I was planning to hunt. I recently passed on a 338/06 in this set up and have had regrets since. Are you planning to buy/build for a specific hunt? All We Know Is All We Are | |||
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.223 because ammo is cheap, excellent little round, everyone should have one. middle one is tougher but a 6.5x55, 7mm08, .284 would all be nice. .375 Ruger unless the action is large enough for the H&H. If that is too large for any use you would have a .338 Win mag would be superior. | |||
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SAKO L61R factory calibers were .264 win, .270 Win, 7mm Rem Mag, .30-06, .300 WinMag, .338 Win Mag and .375 H&H. It´s push feed -action with flush magazine. | |||
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9.3x66 SAKO seems right for the L61R . | |||
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All these pretty guns and you hunt with the ugly accurate blaser. You suck My three - 30/06, 375 h&h, 375 ruger to back up the 375h&h as a spare Mike | |||
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I should sell them all and get a Rooooooger with a banana clip like you :-) | |||
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Not sure about the ruger but I am certain you will sell them you gun trading machine Mike | |||
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Guilty as charged! :-) | |||
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How about: 223 7/08 35 Whelen | |||
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243 308 358 All in Mannlicher stocks! | |||
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some countries prohibit the use of military chambering for hunting rifles so you might want to check that out if you want to chamber the L-461 in .223 /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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To go off on a tangent. Is a rifle marked 223 considered a military cartridge? The 5.56 is the military cartridge and it is different although dimensionally identical. My three choices were dictated by the three different sized actions. I would select a couple different ones without that limiting issue. | |||
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I would make my choice a 1. 300 Blackout with J.D. Jones made suppresser 2. .260 Remington 3. 300 Winchester Mag. NRA Life Member From West Virginia, where the Sun shines in the sky and the Moon shines in the basement | |||
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This would be a great choice just about anywhere! Matt Matt FISH!! Heed the words of Winston Smith in Orwell's 1984: "Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right." | |||
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I would most likely do: 222 : 50 grain 308 : 150 grain 9,3x62 : 250 grain | |||
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I like: 7x57 9.3x62 404 Jeffrey | |||
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For me - it's what I currently have... 223 7x64 9.3x62 | |||
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I just did that - .280 Rem .300 WM .375 H&H | |||
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