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I am looking for a Wiebe or something with a similar design Bottom Metal for a Winchester Pre 64 standard 30.06 3.395” length, open to offers.
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Why don't you just order one from Swift?

https://www.swiftbullets.com/p.../blackburn-gun-metal


Just be patient with your order. I order a .375 H&H Mauser bottom metal from them last Fall, as of late Spring they had no idea when they would get them made. I have not heard a peep from them and finally found one from a forum member.
 
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I neeeded the same a few months back...Not in stock and absolutely no idea when they would be making them.....but...they had a unit for the 416 Rem Mag! The easy fix was to squueze the front of the box to make proper stack...
 
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Wonder if Wisner would chime in.

How much "savings" was there between a silver solders vs 1 piece bottom metal
 
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Jump on it young feller!
 
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Personally...I'm not sure of a savings....You can let a CNC just "do it's thing" without fooing around with flux, rod and torch and clean up afterwards

Sunnyhill welds the guard to the frame,,,seems to work for them and there's maybe the bit of an advantage to interchangeable.

LLC or not...it's still gotta be profitable. Cost of material and tooling and coolants has skyrocketed....then you have to get rid of chips and used coolants...which can be a little challening .

Example: 2017 I bought a Ram for about $42000. I was surprised when offered $43000 on a trade for a new one...Cost of comperable new one.....$74000!!!
 
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I bought a Ram for about $42000.


I thought gunmakers didn't make any money. Har!! Big Grin


I'm a little tired of your supposed humor.
 
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Well....give all "just welding" ideas a try and report back
 
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Working on it. Had a local guy machine a trigger guard and a floorplate. Now I have to find a tig welder and then fit the floorplate. Then I'll try making a box.


Where's the floor plate latch?
 
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I have gotten some comments/miss understanding about the little dancing for joy fella. I have removed it and will sit on the sidelines eating some popcorn instead.

J Wisner

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Where's the floor plate latch


going to use one somewhat like winchester uses[/QUOTE]

Sounds good. I’d get that lined out before you go to the welders union local 214 to get it all welded up.
 
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I’d get that lined out before you go to the welders union local 214 to get it all welded up.

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Seems to be some newly manufactured bottom metal,and new old stock quality bottom metal available from individuals if you do some inquiring.
 
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This is just my exercise in futility to learn what it takes to make a bottom metal and everybody is getting a good laugh out of it, including me. Big Grin

But thank you for the suggestion.




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No suggestion for you . If you go to the top of this thread you will see I am the one who started this thread. I was inquiring about locating a bottom metal. Do you even read what is posted??
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This is just my exercise in futility to learn what it takes to make a bottom metal and everybody is getting a good laugh out of it, including me. Big Grin

But thank you for the suggestion.




KP,
No suggestion for you . If you go to the top of this thread you will see I am the one who started this thread. I was inquiring about locating a bottom metal. Do you even read what is posted??
4WD


I doubt he knows what the thread is about.
 
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Sorry to have offended you.


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Good grief this whole thread is becoming tragi-comic...

For the record, (not taking sides here...) but 4WD, I also interpreted your comment "Seems to be some newly manufactured bottom metal, and new old stock quality bottom metal available from individuals if you do some inquiring" as a suggestion to "do some inquiring" rather than trying to jury-rig a welded arrangement as he is doing now.

But that's just my personal interpretation... Roll Eyes popcorn
 
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by montea6b:


For the record, (not taking sides here...) but 4WD, I also interpreted your comment "Seems to be some newly manufactured bottom metal, and new old stock quality bottom metal available from individuals if you do some inquiring" as a suggestion to "do some inquiring" rather than trying to jury-rig a welded arrangement as he is doing now.

But that's just my personal interpretation...


Montea6B,
I agree I wasn’t clear. What I meant to say is several members here and elsewhere have Wiebe, Blackburn and Sunnyhill bottom metal that they have no future plans for and available on the resale market, if one wants to put forth the effort to search for it. Eeker
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I have an extra Wiebe bottom metal for an Enfield in 458Lott. It would take a little money for me to part with it.
 
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Kolo Pan don;t be discouraged by the old fart clique that likes to disparage any effort not by one of their own. I regret that you removed your photos but understand why you did.

Perhaps you could start a new topic and post photos of the completed project. I am sure that I am not the only interested party.

Good luck with your effort.

Bill
 
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So...Mayhaps "New member" could fill us old farts in on his experience, background, etc.????
 
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Predictable response. I rest my case.

Been around since 1 of 2013.
 
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I purchased a Swift/Blackburn and a SunnyHill for pre64 30.06 length Win Mod70’s. I can’t tell much difference between the two. Both seem to be quality built. The SunnyHill has a integral magazine box. The Blackburn uses the factory magazine box. The Swift/Blackburn needs a little modification of the factory magazine box for it to fit. The SunnyHill is final polished ,the Blackburn trigger bow is pretty rough and needs quite a bit of polishing. The SunnyHill was 30% more in price.
 
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