I've had this mauser for a few years now, but don't know much about it. I do know that it has matching serial numbers, the stock has been refinished, and sadly, it looks like some asshole has ground off the arsenal marks. That's about as much as I know. It is in really good condition though. The next question is... Should I leave it as it is, or build something on the action?

Thanks.

Whatizit? Looks possibly like a war-year rebuild or put-together....I'm leaning towards it being a Polish version of the Model 98AZ Carbine? (Page 253, Mauser Military Rifles of the World, 3rd edition)

Couple of observations. No bayonet lug and barrel doesn't extend the usual amount past the stock. Rear sling loop looks Italian? What's the caliber?

Grizz

8mm Mauser.

And it does have some sort of lug on the front. It's part of the front sight that extends forward over the barrel and has a groove in it.

Couple of other notes:

In the picture of the side of the receiver, it's hard to see, but there is a stamping of "50" with a mark right above it that looks like a crescent with the open end facing up.

That 88 stamp is on the underside of the receiver and I have no idea what that is supposed to be in between the eights. There's the 8 in the box, but I can't tell what that is below. That picture actually shows the marks better than with the naked eye.

In the stock is a stamp that looks king of like a long, sweeping "W", the serial number, and the eagle.

The only other markings it has is the serial number on the parts. Floorplate, bolt handle, etc.

It does not appear to be of German manufacture, based upon the upper handguard/sight positioning. German manufacture K98 rifles did not have wood between the barrel ring/receiver and the rear tangent sight. Yugo mausers did. I am not an expert on Mausers, so the absence of most identifying markings leave me in the dark.

That's a good point. It does have some differences from my yugo, but very well could be one that somebody ground off the arsenal mark and stamped k98 in the side. I'll have to measure the receivers and see how that comes out.


I only paid 50 bucks for it, so it's no big deal if it does end up being a yugo. I'm really just trying to figure out if I should leave it the way it is or re-barrel it and drop it in another stock. I'm thinking 25-06.

Small ring and the trigger guard profile suggests perhaps a 98a (small ring, large thread) - but just a guess on my part. --- John303.

I thought only germany used the k98 designation.

PM sent.
A well-travelled Polish Cavalry short rifle w/ plenty of history: passed-thru the SCW, as evidenced by the "scrubbed" receiver ring (all traceable native country-of-origin markings were thusly obliterated).
Oddly enough, the "Crescent Moon" is a Turk proof. (Holy shytt, is that enough globe-trotting for this kritter?)
Orig caliber was 8x57JS. These are a small-ring configuration action, however the model accepts a large ring bolt.
One caveat w/ the plans, tho: the .25-06 Rem is a significantly higher-pressure round by approx 18-20%, & rebarreling it to this cal will likely trash the action in a hurry.
If you need a sporter, have you considered buying one already altered, or perhaps a Remchester - rather than ruining a piece of history?

Thank you. Still never got around to measuring the receiver. I'll most likely just leave it as-is.

BTW... Like your avatar.

Never a prob.
Have uploaded a few pics, so if it tickles ya - pls have a look at how she used to appear in the '20s.
Enjoy ........

http://s1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc422/b0400879/

The K98 marking looks pretty crude.

The stamped front ring looks to be Czech. The stock is most likely a re-hash. The groove in the front sight base is for a k98 hood. VZ 24 Stock, w/ VZ cut down barreled action. K98 bolt. A big time mutt! The flat butt was not used on later K98's, and this one has all the ear marks of a VZ24, except it was cut! The K98 is a fake!!

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Originally posted by Jpat:
The K98 is a fake!!

My thought also.

quote:

Originally posted by Jpat:
The stamped front ring looks to be Czech. The stock is most likely a re-hash. The groove in the front sight base is for a k98 hood. VZ 24 Stock, w/ VZ cut down barreled action. K98 bolt. A big time mutt! The flat butt was not used on later K98's, and this one has all the ear marks of a VZ24, except it was cut! The K98 is a fake!!

Wow - return to "Mauser 101". Very happy to add 2 more dorks to the ignore tab. Seriously here: a Vz stock?

A little "knowledge" can sometimes be a dangerous commodity. Would suggest that somebody pull thier heads out.

Just wondering, tho: what the heck have the last 2 geniuses been smokin', 'cuz there's more truth/logic in any Bevis & Butthead cartoon.

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Originally posted by b0400879:

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Originally posted by Jpat:
The stamped front ring looks to be Czech. The stock is most likely a re-hash. The groove in the front sight base is for a k98 hood. VZ 24 Stock, w/ VZ cut down barreled action. K98 bolt. A big time mutt! The flat butt was not used on later K98's, and this one has all the ear marks of a VZ24, except it was cut! The K98 is a fake!!

Seriously - a Vz stock?

Wow. 2 more dorks added to the ignore tab.
A little knowledge can sometimes be a dangerous commodity. Would suggest that somebody pull thier heads out.

Just wondering, tho: what the heck have the last 2 geniuses been smokin', 'cuz Bevis & Butthead can make more sense .....

As evidenced by your post, It doesn't take much for a self appointed expert to lose any and all credibility he may have had, if any. Not that you had any to begin with.

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craigster
As evidenced by your post, It doesn't take much for a self appointed expert to lose any and all credibility he may have had, if any. Not that you any to begin with.

Your hero (jpat) just called. You must contact him immediately (he needs you to suckle his throbbing bone). Enjoy the yule log & pls advise: is the english spelling (for the lot of you) correct @ "Idiots"?

[/QUOTE]is that the best you can do?[/QUOTE]

Nope. I just ignore dorks.

jpat owns you: So GET A CLUE, mate.
Consult him for some much-needed child psych therapy as well. Word on the street is he bought himself a "degree".

G' luck.

"suckle his throbbing bone." Hmm, seems you have an interest in homosexual oral copulation. Not to worry, I won't ask, and you'll not have to tell.

He's your boyfriend.
Does he GET ON TOP?

Enjoy his "company" & take some nice pics of the next encounter. Just don't put 'em up here, tho. Stuff 'em in your 'archive'.

The strong rule here is: No fags on this site

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Originally posted by b0400879:

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Originally posted by Jpat:
The stamped front ring looks to be Czech. The stock is most likely a re-hash. The groove in the front sight base is for a k98 hood. VZ 24 Stock, w/ VZ cut down barreled action. K98 bolt. A big time mutt! The flat butt was not used on later K98's, and this one has all the ear marks of a VZ24, except it was cut! The K98 is a fake!!

Wow - return to "Mauser 101". Very happy to add 2 more dorks to the ignore tab. Seriously here: a Vz stock?

A little "knowledge" can sometimes be a dangerous commodity. Would suggest that somebody pull thier heads out.

Just wondering, tho: what the heck have the last 2 geniuses been smokin', 'cuz there's more truth/logic in any Bevis & Butthead cartoon.

1st off, when was I rude or nasty to you. The OP asked for opinions, that is what he got! BTW, it is spelled "Though" you ignoramous! WTF is tho???? I did do some more research before I read your reply. It does look to be a wz98, a Radom that was scrubbed and restamped by the Germans, partially. There are still issues w/ this rifle!!! There should be a stacking hook, there is no bayonet lug, the barrel is to short, there is no bolt take down disk, and that front cap looks stamped. Sorry if you disagree! You can tell everyone it was Hitlers hunting rifle for all I care. Have a nice life @sshole.

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Originally posted by b0400879:

is that the best you can do?[/QUOTE]

Nope. I just ignore dorks.

jpat owns you: So GET A CLUE, mate.
Consult him for some much-needed child psych therapy as well. Word on the street is he bought himself a "degree".

G' luck.[/QUOTE]

I am not sure what your malfunction is but You really stepped over the line and made this personal.

BTW, Those pictures you posted are of a sporterized rifle that belongs to a gentleman from Illinois on gunboards. I'll let him know Your uploading his pics.
http://forums.gunboards.com/sh...auser-wz.29-Research

This is your link!!!
http://s1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc422/b0400879/
This is the rifle owners link!!!
http://i125.photobucket.com/al...itarski/IMG_0671.jpg

Jpat,
I have zero to lose here. I know what I'm doing. In your case: You have plenty at risk.

That classic keyboard diahhrea from your initial post is about enough for a felony sentence amongst Mauser collectors - stateside or o/w.
Suggest that you quit pushing your pathetic knowledge base/luck - we don't need any further confirmation of your cluelessness. (But, some fools will always be just at that level).

Thus, you might wish to do yourself & all of us a great favor:
STFU, or else get some education.
BUY IT if you must.

It's your reputation at risk here.

I appreciate everyone's input, but the needs to stop.

Slinger, sorry for the issues here. I don't understand why some folks feel that attacking others is productive. Maybe they feel the need to make up for some inadequacy.

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Originally posted by b0400879:
Jpat,
I have zero to lose here. I know what I'm doing. In your case: You have plenty at risk.

That classic keyboard diahhrea from your initial post is about enough for a felony sentence amongst Mauser collectors - stateside or o/w.
Suggest that you quit pushing your pathetic knowledge base/luck - we don't need any further confirmation of your cluelessness. (But, some fools will always be just at that level).

Thus, you might wish to do yourself & all of us a great favor:
STFU, or else get some education.
BUY IT if you must.

It's your reputation at risk here.

A douchebag of your magnitude could cleanse a whale's vagina.

SteelSlinger is clean & righteous - an honest gent looking for honest info. Am thus offerinig a very Merry Christmas to you, sir.

Unfortunately, this site has no "troll police" & thus: some people can somehow abound (and unfortunately) survive here. Maybe even inbreed? God help them. Bad words, etc.

Regardless, SteelSlinger has a very decent K98 engineer carbine there.

The other dorks: both have a mouth on each other's organ. So play yourselves a nice tune tonight!

Happy Xmas from the Seychelles


Past drivel:

one of us
craigster
Posted 22 December 2010 02:48
The K98 marking looks pretty crude.

Jpat
Posted 23 December 2010 03:42
The stamped front ring looks to be Czech. The stock is most likely a re-hash. The groove in the front sight base is for a k98 hood. VZ 24 Stock, w/ VZ cut down barreled action. K98 bolt. A big time mutt! The flat butt was not used on later K98's, and this one has all the ear marks of a VZ24, except it was cut! The K98 is a fake!!
Posts: 329 | Location: NH | Registered: 09 May 2008 IP

Originally posted by Jpat:
The K98 is a fake!!

My thought also.