Hello!I was wondering if there anre any advantages to owning a pre-ban AR16(carbine or rifle).My dad says there is none.What do you guys think?
Thanks,Tyler Gorski.

I would agree with your dad!

The banned "features" are of doubtfull utility to any civilian use, at best. Just what the "assault weapon ban" was supposed to accomplish is of question, on a practical level. What it was intended to do on a political level, further establishing an "evil" mindset toward any civil weapons in the view of the public at large is another matter.

For collectors, pre-ban rifles have some higher "value" since they have been made rarer.

I'd agree with your dad also. In fact, I might go so far as to say there's no adantage in owning either one!!

Are there any accuracy or do they function better or anything like that?My dad doesnt think they're worth it.
Thanks,Tyler Gorski.

I have owned 5 preban AR15's and 2 post rifles. If you are thinking accuracy, you won't miss the bayonet lug, flash suppressor, and the collapsible stock. The bolt carrier has less metal which could affect accuracy. I had a post Colt carbine when they first came out and you would be lucky to hit a volley ball at 100 but I recently purchased a Colt Government Match Target with a 16 inch heavy barrel and it drives nails. The post rifles have all the bells and whistles like the adjustable target sites, reinforced receiver, shell deflector and as for the flash suppressor; I want the person I am shooting at from the front porch to see a 15" flash coming out the end of the barrel. My 2 cents

[ 11-17-2003, 00:03: Message edited by: jbok ]

And if the Clinton Assault Weapon Ban is allowed to sunset next year, there should be NO DIFFERENCE in price. Then there will be NO REASON to own a post-ban if you really want the bayo-lug, collapsible stock and flash-hider.

Myself I don't care one way or the other for the bayo-lug. It's just something else to snag on things. But the collapsible stock and flash hider interest me for nighttime varmint hunting.

Also my kids can shoot the AR with collapsible stock.

No, doesn't mean squat. With the exception of the collapsible butt stock, those have their place sometimes. I can do without the knife on the end of the barrel, and the flash hider/muzzle brake is only a minor inconvienence.

I have to disagree with jbok though. The extra metal in the bolt carrier was with an M-16 bolt carrier. The Colt's, Armalites and others have always used the semi-auto bolt carrier for civilian "Mattels." In my opinion, it does not affect accuracy one bit. That comes from other factors.

Other wise, the "pre-bans" are way over priced and it is a false market. Only for guys with too much money and no place to spend it.

Regards,

Eric

What will be worth more money in say,5-9 years,a M4 type or a full size?I will be getting a Colt and right now I think I will get a full size but some time soon i'm going to go look at some carbines.Which ever feels better I will get.So which would be worth more?I'm thinking the M4.
Thanks,Tyler Gorski.

why buy a colt? you are just paying for a damn logo, hell have your father buy a compelete lower they are usualy 280-380, and uppers are close to the same, then you have a full gun for under the price of a factory one, get a RR, or what not, better quality than colt IMHO, and cost less.

I decided on Colt when I held one.Much better quality feeling than the Bushmaster I felt of the same type.And price for the pre-ban wont be an issue cause I gettin' my rifle after the ban goes bye'bye.Also felt a Colt SP1.Pretty cool!!!Anyways a lot of guys say that pre-ban are the only way to go and post bans are crap cause they got a muzzle brake and it makes them deaf.Oh,I am definately not getting a RR.EVER.Thanks for the comment though .
Thanks,Tyler Gorski.

Jay, Before you buy,take a look around and see if you can locate an SWG AR15. I found the fit&finish and the accuracy to be superior to the Colt AR15a2 H-Bar that I had. Just a suggestion,they might be kind of hard to find. derf

The only advantage to a Colt is a really good chrome lined barrel,(imho)better done than Bushmaster. If you are looking at CM or SS then there is no advantage. Lots of cheaper ways to go that are just as good or better.
Covey

One big DISADVANTAGE to a Colt is the large pivot pin hole and non standard trigger and hammer pins. The pivot pin makes buying uppers to swap out a PITA by having to use an off-set pivot pin adapter. The only pivot pin adapter out there that I know of that is worth a crap is the one sold by CDNN. Most need to be re-adjusted every time you break down the rifle for cleaning. At least whoever makes the adapter for CDNN did it right. I have a Colt, Armalite, and DPMS, in order of preference, Armalite, DPMS, and Colt comes in dead last. I would not buy another Colt unless I could get it for a really good price, like I did on the one I have. Definately not my first choice.