These rifle is the replacement for the HK 91. Does anyone in here know of a dealer who stocks these?

www.jldenter.com

Sarco had the best price on them a couple of months ago when I got mine. It was 6$$ something. It is an awesome gun and nicer than the real hk's. The g3 and cetme don't even compare.

Thanks for the tip Joe. Gonna have my dealer order me one tomorrow. Great Price!

JoeDirt, I just ordered one from Sarco but they are out of extra magazines. Do you know of a source for them? Looking for 20 round capacity.

Cheaper than Dirt had them for 4 bucks a piece a while back.

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Originally posted by joedirt:
Sarco had the best price on them a couple of months ago when I got mine. It was 6$$ something. It is an awesome gun and nicer than the real hk's. The g3 and cetme don't even compare.

When I bought my H&K 91 in 1978 I paid around $500.00 retail.It took a year to get as H&K was not even established in the U.S.It's got the polygon barrel,bipod,port buffer,bayonet and also came with two mags and leather sling.
What you have is nice,but no way is it nicer,or ever going to be worth what mine is.

Baboon, have you shot and handled both the "original" HK 91 and the new PTR models? I used to have an original HK 91 and it was ok but certaintly didnt impress me. I sold it for $1,200 when the ban went into effect. Last gun show I attended I bet I seen half a dozen original rifles for sale from $600-$900. I almost bought the one for $900 as it had the collaspable stock. American Rifleman just did a review of the PTR and found them to be extremely well made. Since I am relying on your opinion as more knowledgeable than myself, why are the older ones better?

I have seen the article in the American Rifleman.I have not handled one.The only differences that I notice on the PTR-91 are the different sights and the barrel.The eary H&K 91 came with the polygon barrel.This is the same barrel as used in the PSG-I.The barrel was more exspensive to make so it was replaced with a conventional round barrel.Heres is a link for you
http://www.hkpro.com/psg1.htm
To add to the value of an early gun like mine they simply did not import as many making it more dessirable.I have never ran match grade or even home loads thru mine.When I first got it it was shooting 1.5 with West German military ball.The last time I shot it I used it in a match for a D.C.M.Garand.Using ball ammo it shot as good as my buddies AR-15.

I ordered brass and bullets. Since I never reloaded for an "HK" style 308 I have a question. Small base or regular .308 dies?

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I ordered brass and bullets. Since I never reloaded for an "HK" style 308 I have a question. Small base or regular .308 dies?

You should rethink reloading for the H&K 91 as the fluted chamber is really rough on the brass.A tumble will get a major work out cleaning the brass.If the gun does not have a port buffer there will be a very big bent in your case as well.

I can buy once fired brass for .04 each and a bullet for .10. Add some powder and primers and I am well under .25 a round.

The PTR-91 as with the HK-91 is going to be really hard on your brass. The flutes are not the problem but the way they get chewed up on ejection. If you plan on reloading be sure to invest in a port buffer. The PTR-91 is a very faithful copy of the HK-91 (using many HK or POF parts) but the newer PTRs have the conventional rifled barrel instead of the polygonal bores of the early PTR-91. Not a big deal really. My PTR is fairly accurate but it is no AR-10 or bolt gun, that is for damned sure. For cheap shooting mine likes the Australian surplus and that stuff is so cheap that it is not worth my time to reload. It shoots between 2-3 inches for 5 at 100 yards with the iron sights and I am more than certain that it is me that is the limiting factor. Occasion groups, too many to be chance, go well under two inches. And, beware getting the telescoping A3 stock. I got one for my PTR (paying close attention to the import parts count and using mags with US made parts) and that thing totally sucked. It shot OK but that is the most damnedably uncomfortable stock I have ever shot. I put the standard A2 stock back on. One thing that is nice to know, if you have trouble with your rifle JLD will stand behind it. Mine was one of the first 250 (low 100s) that have the "target chamber" and was in effect a single shot, failing to extract every round. After the rifle was returned to JLD (they paid shipping both ways) and the chamber was opened up and refluted to HK specs the rifle has run 100%. Also, that "two-stage" match trigger JLD talks about, yah, right, only in their dreams. It is just like most HK-91 triggers, totally sucks. Be sure to plan on investing another $65 and have Williams Trigger Specialties give you at least the basic trigger job. They will turn that pig's ear of a 9.5 pound trigger into a 4.5 pound silk purse.

Big Bore,

I just got a PTR 91 Standard with a flash suppressor- IYHO who makes the best reproduction scope mount for the G3?

Found this: http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=32489543.

Read the comments -Pretty funny!

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I am well under .25 a round.

I buy the Aussie surplus stuff at $31.00 for 140 rds. Why would I want to reload these? I have enough reloading to do with my premium ammo and feeding my semi-autos its cheaper to buy the surplus, unless I am shooting a match or something then my loads aren't going to be cheap.

Ok guys I have a question on these Sarco guns.
THere are two models, besides the bipod whats the difference? What are you getting for the extra $300.00 on the A! version besides the bipod?

Did anyone actually buy on of these Sarco's and what did you think? Any range reports?

Thaanks, I am looking at one of these also and I am trying to get some information before I get into a purchase.

I have the standard version with the green furniture. It is an awesome weapon. It is big. I have shot all kinds of ammo and had only two fte's and they were in the first 40rds.
Since then it has functioned flawlessly. It is accurate but I have only had it at the range once and it made a 3" group at 100m with open sights. This is mainly my fault as I was really hungover and I was shooting adi 144gr surplus. The australian is considered by most to be the best surplus on the market. The other times I have shot it shot about 1" at 100m with open sights. This is a great gun but want the choate folding stock and an original german mount for it. When it is scoped and done it will shoot under 1 moa. My varmint gun I built shot .5" at 100m when I was done with it. The only complaints I have with this gun is the heavy trigger and cheap furniture. I have shot cetme's, g3, and original hk and the ptr shoots better than all three.