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Ok lets just say this was your only choice for a combat and survival weapon, which one would you choose . Both are caliber .308 winchester, The Armalite M10 or the US Springfield M1A scout squad rifle. And why?
 
Posts: 869 | Location: Bellerose,NY USA | Registered: 27 July 2001Reply With Quote
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I bet this one has been done before!

You can't go wrong with either choice, just bring spare parts and your cleaning kit for either one.

I go with the M1A for the more reliable gas system and fewer bolt problems.

My buddies who were career armorers (older guys who go back to the 60's when M14s were more common in combat) choose the M14 over the AR without exception. They may be somewhat tainted by the early problems that they cannot seem to forget. By the time I was in (70's) the AR had been fixed. But I did use the M14 for two years in the Marines and I now own an M1A.

I'm sure you can find fellows who disagree. I'm glad we have the choice.

Tim

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Posts: 1537 | Location: Romance, Missouri | Registered: 04 March 2002Reply With Quote
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I have 2 SR 25's and I have had several M1A's including a SS Hart SM and 2 AR-10T's one of which went back for a new barrel and without a doubt the KAC product is the 1st choice per my experience. I will say this about the M1A standard rifle though for the money there is no better but when you go to the next level the SR 25 rocks!

Dave
 
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Not even f....g close. M1A, M14.
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M1A.

The AR10 is bulky and unweildy, and there are lots of field reports of reliability issues.
 
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Everybody has an opinion. Pick what "feels" best to you and run with it.

I'd use either and everyone makes a lemon once in awhile. I do however like the Armalite and the way it feels to me. The M1A is a fine piece of machinery too.

The Armalite is a little more bulky, but some folks don't seem to have a problem with that. Heck, try packing a G-3 or a CETME for awhile. Now those are heavy and bulky!

Regards,

Eric
 
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I'll take AG3 anyday over the others.
Full auto with a light gun in 308? No thanks.

Johan
 
Posts: 1082 | Location: Middle-Norway (Veterinary student in Budapest) | Registered: 20 March 2002Reply With Quote
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Ok lets just say this was your only choice for a combat and survival weapon, which one would you choose . Both are caliber .308 winchester, The Armalite M10 or the US Springfield M1A scout squad rifle. And why?

Belgian FN.

Feels right. Works. Pretty much time-tested and passed, although the CETME/H&K has passed, also.
 
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I carried an FN FAL, we called the R1. It worked and was accurate enough for combat applications. For my money the SL 7 is a good defence rifle without the military look to draw attention to. it also carries a good scope mount for mounting a rifle scope for accuracy work out to 300m. The new DSA guns are the zenith of FALs, but its the SL 7 for me.

Aleko
 
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I wouldn't even consider a M1A Scout. Isn't that like a "Tanker" Garand only based on the M14? I understand that the shortened gas system is problematic with those. Get a Full length M1A or the AR10. AR10-A3 if you ever want to mount a scope.
 
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Unless there is empirical evidence to the contrary, I don't think the short barrel of the M1A causes cycling problems because of the gas piston design. The piston is hollow with a port in the top. As the piston begins to move the port is occluded, sealing the pressure inside the piston / cylinder, and is no longer dependent on having a bullet in the barrel to maintain pressure long enough to cycle the action.

Mounting a scope on my M1A has been an excersise in aggravation because the line of sight is so high I can't get a good cheek weld on the thing. Even with an additional cheek pad. Then again, my scope has a 56mm objective.
 
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Screw you . . . This is combat. Lives are at stake.

So, you arm yourself with the AK-47 and don't look back.
 
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