Hello!I want to put a sight on my M4 when I get it in some amount of years.Here are my optic choices...

1.EOTech 550
2.C-More tactical
3.Trijicon Reflex RX01NSN(with back-up A.R.M.S. #40)
4.Aimpoint CompM2.

I only have experiance with the EOTech so I need some help.
Thanks,Tyler Gorski

Sigh. (Let the flaming commence)

Tyler:

I understand your question and expect that you will have some time to come to a conclusion before that "M4" shows up under the Christmas tree. A shorter barreled AR variant is most effective at shorter ranges! It is only my opinion, but this weapon is optimized by keeping it light, handy and simple.

If in the future you decide to "join up", and you recieve a real "M4" that way, the folks running the joint may have some of their own ideas about what sights you will be issued. Learning to shoot open sights is a skill, one that the better rifleman of yesteryear learned well. Many of the infantrymen of today that I see at the range are very poor shots with their open sight weapons, perhaps from relying on the crutch of a scope as a civilian, or just simple lack of practice. It is ironic, but perople that are able to shoot open sights well, through practice, are more likely to be selected to shoot (and can shoot) the really accurate bolt action, scoped weapons that are now part of the inventory.

Good Luck, best wishes and keep up the good shooting!

Hello!Well,I am pretty good with open sights(AK type) and I shot a M1 at 100 yards and did well.But for those of you who arent familiar,the C-More(my top choice for now) has built in iron sights.And for the reflex I plan to buy a A.R.M.S.#40.And all sight options are within 50$ so price isn't an issue.I will read all comments regardless of what you say.
Thanks for replying,Tyler Gorski.

Well... by the time you get i, hose listed may be all outdated. Probably not totally, so maybe you can get them cheap. I keep hearong bad things about the C-more... The cheapest way might be the Eotech. They seem to have a good reputation and could go right on the flattop rail. You could add a simple buck up peep that would co-witness. Even the cheap ones cost too much, but it would still be cheaper than am Arms mount,( not to mention a mount for a CompML.

I often think about my stupid AR... between the Aimpoint, the ARms mount/BU sight and swing arms mount, I have close to $600 worth of sight on a gun that spends 360 days a year in the safe. Whenever a new gun project comes along I start ti think of that.. and think of much better ways that $600 could have been used.

A lot of people try to buy their way to becoming a proficient rifleman. The only thing you can buy that will make you a better marksman is ammunition, and only if you shoot it.

Forget wasting money on scopes. Get a carry handle with A2 sight for your rifle, if you ever get it , and spend the rest of the money on shooting.

Wow, arent you happy with your H-BAR? I mean, you cant be bored with it that quickly, can you? Ive gotten into knife collecting in my time between guns, and I suggest you do the same. Just go with what happens, you should be satisfied with that anyway. Jeesh

I think once Tyler gets out to shoot his HBAR, little cold right now, high of 10degrees today, he'll forget about getting a Match Target M4 for awhile, I did order a Aimpoint carry handle mount and some Burris extra low Zee rings in which to mount the 6-24xSignature that was on the 22-250, to see if the thing will shoot Praire dogs or tiny groups out to 300yds. or so with 69gr.MKs, but otherwise he'll be shooting 1000rds. of 55gr. Rem. FMJ over 23grs. of H322 with the standard Colt sights. Jay

An M4gery is just as boring to shoot as an H-bar.

I'll bet he shoots pretty well after burning through that 1000 rounds! Mine always prefered the Sierra 60 gr flat based Varminteer over anything else.

Good Luck!

Tom, Is your model have the 7 twist or 9? I'm just little worried the 7 twist won't shoot the 55FMJ bullets well, is there such thing as spinning the bullet too fast? I don't know, never shot the A2, just the ones (A1s) we had in the armory at Nellis, that were from the 60s. Jay

Jay-

As you know, we shoot M193 (55 gr ball) thru the 1-7" twist A2s all the time, with fine results. If Tyler's rifle has a 1-7" barrel, you can obviously shoot any bullet weight through it. Don't worry about any meaningful accuracy drop off due to the tight twist and 55 gr FMJ stuff, especially for now.

Besides, just getting Tyler some trigger time on that new thing is what's important. Let him get used to it, and nail down his fundamentals, while shooting the "cheap stuff". The AR-15 is different from what he's used to, so just let him spend some time finding out "how to shoot it".

Jay:

I have the 1:7" twist barrel. Mine shoots the 55gr OK, but the accuracy is lackluster compared to the 60 grainers. If I ever shoot the lighter bulets it is only because they are cheap and available. The 60 grainers are pretty good out to 300yds. beyond that the 69gr and heavier bullets come into their own. The biggest problem with "overspin" is that any lack of concentricity or alignment will be amplified, a lot. For shorter ranges, my experience has been that flat base bullets are generally more accurate. This may be due to longer bearing surface and less disturbance at the muzzel.

Good Luck!

I prefer the Reflex, it is very durable and no batteries. I like to mount it right on the flat top and use the MAD flip up rear offered by GG&G.
Jason