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Edmond, speaking of wacky, a mutual aquaintance of yours and mine told me on Sunday that when the SIGs are distributed to the French police, they will collect all of the MR73 revolvers and destroy them. This is one of the great revolvers of all time and they are going to be melted down or crushed in some machine. What a shame, especially when you consider all the junk that is going to be continued to be stored in French arsenals. _________________________________ AR, where the hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history become the nattering nabobs of negativisim. | ||
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Won't be a lot of junk left in the arsenals, Gendarmerie Nationale destroys its last 7.5 mm weapons including bunch of MSE MAS, LMG 24/29 plus all the remaining SMG MAT 49.  Marine Nationale destroyed the remaining MAS 44. Police Nationale uses 17 different models of handguns, some are junk , most are excellent Manurhin 73 and F1. | |||
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I didn’t know the French ever fired their weapons anyway!  | |||
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You dunno zilch!  | |||
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Stocking up for the Political Forum?   | |||
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You don't have a corner on this market (stupidity ref. old weapons)!! NYC, several states, and even the Feds have done this. Mainly with handguns, BUT the Feds (under Billy Klinton) cut up just a whole lot of perfectly serviceable M1 Garands...... "Bitte, trinks du nicht das Wasser. Dahin haben die Kuhen gesheissen." | |||
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In US,in 1986, I have seen piles of brand new M16 A1 rifles with various markings such as Hydramatic and H&R, if I remember correctly, that had been demilled by cutting the receivers in two pieces with an acetylen torch... | |||
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One of our collector group was a Green Beret and couple of meetings ago he brought his son, a Navy SEAL to a meeting with him. He told us the same thing happened to virtually all of the M14's and now the Army etc is scrambling to find the remains. The Marines never turned theirs in and according to him the Navy kept all the ones that had been turned into a version of the XM21 I think it was called - anyway, the sniper version of the M14. I swear, stupidity cannot be cured and it is a shame it is not terminal! Lord, give me patience 'cuz if you give me strength I'll need bail money!! 'TrapperP' | |||
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20 000 weapons are destroyed here every year.. almost made me cry to think the last MAS 44 have been melted. US is now the only place where to find them since 3500 of them have been sold there in the 70s of a total of 7000 rifles. M21 is the accurized version of the M14. | |||
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Edmond, I just watched some documentary footage of the Algerian war, then viewed again the movie “The Battle of Algiers.†One thing that I noted immediately in both the movie and the documentary footage was the French paras of Col Mathieu all seemed to be armed with the Mat 49 and the GI carbine. If the French are destroying weapons as you state, what are the chances any of these carbines will be coming back into the US? About as remote as any of the Johnson rifles the Cuban “Freedom Fighters†had at the Bay of Pigs will come back up? Boy, would I like to get my hands on some of those! Lord, give me patience 'cuz if you give me strength I'll need bail money!! 'TrapperP' | |||
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Too late, the lend lease agreement obliged France to destroy all of of them or sending them back to US, they could not be sold or given to a third party. At the beginning of the 70's, all the US weapons in storage in France have been loaded on one of our aircraft carriers and pushed with a bulldozer in the mediterranean sea in front of witenesses representing the US military attaché. If you want to cry more, large quantities of 1777 muskets and flintlock pistols in storage at the Toulon area Navy Arsenal followed them.. | |||
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I think they might have been talking about the little Navy (SPECWAR) and not the big Navy (everyone else). As far as I know, the most common rifle in any ship's small arms locker is still a standard issue M14 w/the selector shaft lock. But in the future he will be almost 100% right. Outside of the SEALS and the M21, the only M14s in the USN arsenal are going to be ceremonial weapons and line throwing devices.  Apparently the 5.56x45 NATO round doesn't have enough oomph to toss the birdie. Oh, and about those M14s that the nav doesn't need, no one is going to get there hands on any of them because of BATFE's rule about "once a machine gun, always a machine gun." I doubt we'll even get any parts kits. I hate progress. | |||
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Now, that is strange - an M14 line throwing device. In my day, all the line throwing guns I ever saw were single shot break-open (H&R's ?) that used a 45/70 blank. And the M14 I used DID NOT HAVE A SELECTOR - it was semi-auto only. Originally, I am told, the M-14 was designed to be semi only and the M15 was select fire, heavy barrel version to replace the BAR, etc. I never saw an M15 but have been told it was a real disaster and the M-14 then had a selector switch added. Full auto and a battle pack load of 100 rds - 20 in the weapon plus four extra mags is a pitifully small amount of ammo to tote into a fire fight. I would really like to have an M14 but guess I'll never get the chance. Pity! Lord, give me patience 'cuz if you give me strength I'll need bail money!! 'TrapperP' | |||
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