Has any one had any ecperiance with the Carbon15's? I was wondering how their recievers held up to use. I am intriged be a AR clone that weights ~5lbs loaded. However I am weary of plastic to metal contact which must be inherant to the design.

Thanks,
Kristofer

[ 02-12-2003, 09:30: Message edited by: KBGuns ]

There is NO plastic to metal contact in any polymer or carbon fiber framed firearm that I know of. At least in none of high quality.

There are steel rails and parts embedded in the polymer for the bolt and other moving parts to make contact with. Look at any Glock on the frame rails where the slide mounts. Are they plastic? No they are steel.

The Benelli Nova shotgun has a steel liner inside the polymer stock/receiver housing. It is on that liner that the bolt rails are machined, and the bolt never rubs on plastic.

Why would you assume that someone would deliberately make a firearm where metal parts would wear the polymer frame away?????

Ruger P95 and P97 both utilize plastic frame rails.

Take a look at them, there is no steel molded into the frame. It was a big deal when the P95 came out. I love Glocks, I have no fear of plastic doing certin jobs in a firearm. Holding onto the slide is not one of the jobs I am comfortable with. Tho I like the Ruger design over all, I will not own a gun with plastic rails.

I have not seen the Carbon15 in person, but from the pictures I have seen, there does not seem to be a metal lining in the upper, suggesting the bolt carrier is in contact with the carbon fiber bolt way.

Kristofer

KB,

I have handled the Type 19 carbine. They are indeed light and handy. I did not notice any steel rails or inserts, and the factory claims their carbon fiber is self lubricating, which indicates there is no steel to steel contact.

Whether one will sustain tens of thousands of rounds is a question for someone who has worn one out or broken one in the field. You will get good information about durability from no one else.

As for reliability, the owner reported a few pre-mature bolt lock-backs with the factory and M16/AR15 clips with handloads. He has not tried mil-surp or factory ammo yet. Accuracy was about 1.5 MOA with no serious load development.

Be forewarned the company was in serious financial trouble a few months ago.

"Be forewarned the company was in serious financial trouble a few months ago."

I have noticed their web page is now a dead link. So I suspect they are in some serious finantical trouble.

I do not really want one. I am curious of weather they last. I guess not alot of them seen around. Thanks steve.

Kristofer

To KSDuckhunter
I take it you have not seen one of the carbon fiber rifles.
SS

I owned one, Lost money on it! never had any feeding problems but the trigger sucks so did the accuracy.