How would you do it???

you have carte-blanc to re-build, re-arm, re-organise, re-model the armed forces- all the armed forces- you can even delete or almagamate current forces into or out of whats currently on offer.

How would you do it??
If that concept is to big- take a current branch an re-do it starting from the lowest rank to the highest including TOE if you want.


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First thing I'd do is bring the .45ACP back!!!

Was at the range yesterday and one of the old retired military guys there said that all of the armored personnel in Iraq are being issued .45ACPs. and Kimber is backlogged supplying them. Sounds legit but cannot verify Sound good to you??
BJB

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Originally posted by C.Wathen:
First thing I'd do is bring the .45ACP back!!!

aside from one guy on another forum that suggested a 9x23 in a 1911 frame 99% of people that have responded have said this

keep the ideas coming guys

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Firstly the .45acp would make a come back. And no my bro-inlaw was in an armored unit and they all had 9mm berretas, never said anything about a .45acp, go figure. The 5.56 would then get the boot, dont know what i would replace it with but i sure would be bigger, 6.8spc or possible the 7.62x51mm. Scince im not in the military and only hear stories told be my bro-inlaw about his iraq expirience i can only give a second hand opinion. oh well

I love the 45acp. But in all honestly with all the gear soldiers wear today it doesn't have the penetration that other rounds have, like the 9mm. If it's up close and no body armour, then hands down 45acp for me. I think they could use something for more penetration but I don't know exactly what.

Far as rifles the 6.5 grendel beats the pants off the 6.8 and also beats the 308 at 1000 yards and slightly before it too.

Fundimentals- less specilization. More target work with rifle and pistol, overlaping training, less spray and pray and more situational awarness. Less news oersonel embedded with the troops. Less gimick and more good solid armorment. Less dependence on centeral control and more in the hands of the Sgts and master Sgts. Less time in trucks and more ground pounding in combat formations. Quit second guessing the line platoon/company comand structure. Less inter-service actions. promote espirit de corp. Let the professionals do their jobs, using the weaponery they chose, the way they know how, and if they can't do it get someone else. Remember the lessons of the Roman legons, the mongal hoards, the vista Goths, WW I and II, Korea, and Viet Nam.
AND BACK UP THE MEN ON THE GROUND WHO ARE TRYING TO STAY ALIVE AND DO THEIR JOB.
Just my humble thoughts as a student of history.
Judge Sharpe

If I wanted to have the U.S. military actually win its wars, rather than just bleed a lot, I'd start by downsizing the Pentagon by about 80%. Get rid of the brass hats, and make them all company grade officers or non-coms (or better yet, one-stripe ground pounders) where they might learn something about fighting...or turf them out. NO more military sinecures.

My next step would be to reorganize Congress from the ground up. Main purpose in doing that is to get rid of all the B.S. about fighting "humane" wars. There is no such thing, if you want to win. The only way you can win a war is to destroy the enemy's will to fight, and to do that you have to make it obvious to them that they and their entire cultures will ALL die if they don't cease and desist from ALL resistance both now and in the future. That's what happened with Germany & Japan in WWII. Both decided they'd rather surrender and cooperate than take the other option. It's what happens in all wars that aren't going to continue forever.

Lastly, I would reinstitute the draft. I think EVERY citizen should do an absolute minimum of two years national service, beginning at age 18 or graduation from high school, whichever comes first. No Exceptions. Not for females, not for handicapped, NONE except for the totally physically incapacitated. Every Congressperson and his/her kids, too. Service would be wherever the nation needed them, not necessarily in the military, but yes, fighting too, if that's what is needed. When no fighting is required, they can help re-build the nation's infrastructure and perform other civic duties. On completion, they would all be eligible & funded for further education commensurate with their abilities.

That way they could learn real world lessons about good, evil, force, hard work, justice, pride, peacefulness, and all that sort of thing. And they wouldn't be eligible to run for ANY public office until succesfully completing their national service obligation.

Only after all that would I tackle TO&E, etc.

Doesn't mean I want to go around killing everyone. Means that if the war isn't worth that approach then it isn't worth fighting, and it's damned well time Congress and the nation both learned that.

Establish assasination squads that roam the world and whack every bad guy identified by the NSA or CIA without respect for international borders. Arm each member of each squad with a pre-signed Presidential pardon for anything they might do during their service except for things they do in the USA.

Also I would put US forces into Taiwan to help prevent a likely Chinese attack within the next 10 years.

I would also invest in development of high tech weaponry with as powerful lasers and plasma beams which could be deployed to our great advantage in 20-30 years.

Start by making the basic training tough like it was 20+ years back! I went through it in 1988 as a one station unit training program at Fort Sill for field artillery it was a about a 14 week combat speciality program for men only but I thought it should have been alot tougher! A good friend of mine went through it at Fort Dix and for him it was a co-ed training program that I understood from him was not so intensive. Not discounting the ladies,{ because they are force to be reckoned with alone} the combat MOS's were men only and they need to be trained intensely for combat. How about a lighter version of the M14 in 308 {7.62x51} and bring back the 1911A1 in 45ACP and the M60 for the primary squad automatic m-gun! Submachine guns should play a role too. Every soldier should be crossed trained with all small arms,light,medium and heavy m-guns. I'm writing this from experience and I believe very much in it. The military needs to be toughened up and they need the ammo to do it AND none of that don't ask don't tell BS. R.