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US Navy of 1915 - a short silent documentary made in 1915
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The closest thing you can get to a time machine. The fragment is about 11 minutes long. It can be viewed here:

National Film Preservation Foundation - U.S. Navy of 1915 (1915)

Two things occurred to me as I watched it. 4 of the 8 battleships at Pearl Harbor had been launched by the year this documentary had been made. The other 4 had their keels laid not too many years later.

The loss of life was terrible and the Japanese victory had been overwhelmingly lopsided considering how low their losses were. But strategically it was a flop. The WWI era battleships that were damaged or lost (2 were lost, the others were repaired) weren't very useful in WWII. Would you have wanted to take on the Yamato in a surface action in something that was afloat when this film was made?

The second thing is, the USN has deteriorated to the point where we now have just about as many total ships as the country had in 1915, when we were unprepared for WWI.



There's a cheerful thought.
 
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I'm really glad that this is one Chief that never had to set sail on one of those little subs. There's a reason I ended up on the Signal Bridge. I'd have gone crazy if I was confined in a little metal tube.

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The second thing is, the USN has deteriorated to the point where we now have just about as many total ships as the country had in 1915...


But numbers aren't the whole truth.

My friend's son who is a Captain in our (British) Royal Artillery tells me that just one modern battery of the MLR can, apparently, lay down as much of a barrage as was fired by ALL the guns in the opening barrage at El Alamein in 1942.
 
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Originally posted by enfieldspares:
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The second thing is, the USN has deteriorated to the point where we now have just about as many total ships as the country had in 1915...


But numbers aren't the whole truth.

My friend's son who is a Captain in our (British) Royal Artillery tells me that just one modern battery of the MLR can, apparently, lay down as much of a barrage as was fired by ALL the guns in the opening barrage at El Alamein in 1942.


Numbers don't tell the whole story, but numbers still count. No matter how capable a ship may be, it can still only be in one place at one time.

Emphasis on "may be," as the due to shortfalls in maintenance and training, ships are often not as capable as they should be. Search for the Baslisle report on USN surface force readiness if you're into reading a blunt, detailed and discouraging information on a long, slow decline.

The report isn't available on-line, although I've read several sections on various naval blogs. Here's a Navy Times article discussing the report.

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The advanced radar systems aboard cruisers and destroyers are in their worst shape ever, according to an independent probe into Navy readiness, raising questions about the surface fleet’s ability to take on its high-profile new mission next year defending Europe from ballistic missiles.

Poor training, impenetrable bureaucracy and cultural resignation have caused a spike in the number of technical problems and a dip in the operational performance of the Aegis system, considered the crown jewel of the U.S. surface force, according to members of a “fleet review panel” tasked with assessing the surface fleet. And if that’s the situation with Aegis — which includes warships’ iconic, hexagonal SPY-1 radar arrays — the panel wondered what that could mean for other, lower-profile equipment.

. . . But the report said Aegis, like the rest of the fleet, has become a victim of personnel cuts and the Navy’s labyrinthine internal organization. Casualty reports are up 41 percent from fiscal 2004, and those requiring technical assistance are up 45 percent. Over the same period, SPY radar performance, as observed by the Board of Inspection and Survey, has steadily worsened for cruisers and destroyers.

The report includes a sample of eight cruisers visited in the past several months by InSurv, whose scores on Aegis readiness form a distinct downward trend. The best performers were Cape St. George and Lake Erie, each of which got the maximum score of 1.0, which earns a rating of “satisfactory”; Cowpens and Chosin, with scores between 0.8 and 1.0, also earned “sat.” The worst were Monterey, Chancellorsville, San Jacinto and Normandy, all of which got grades that would have earned them ratings of “degraded” or “unsat.”
 
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GREAT footage! I saved that site.



Doug Humbarger
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Thanks for positng that.
I think we need a larger Navy, especially several more Aircraft Carrier task forces.


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So all we need to do now is enter into another Washington treaty, scap 40 more ships, and watch another World War start.
Lets all say thanks to the 3 stooges, Nancy, Harry, and Obamma.
 
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