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Dear Friends!

I have the chance to buy a Portugiese 1904 rifle. It may well be a 1904/ 39. Its in fine shape and the sights are great!

Its declared as "8 mm" Caliber, and it sure looks so!

Is this the 8 x 57IS, the elder 8 x 57I ( same bore, but different bullets and different throat dimensions ) or do the Portugese have a proprietary 8 mm case ( I know they do have a proprietary 6.5, the "Vergueiro" ( sp? ))

What 8 mm cartridges did the Portugese use from 1904 on???

Thanks in advance, Hermann


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Posts: 339 | Location: Middle Europe | Registered: 10 January 2005Reply With Quote
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The "original" 1904's were chambered for the 6.5x58 Portuguese Vergueiro round. In 1937 the German Kar 98 was adopted as the Rifle 7.92mm M/937. A lot of the earlier 1904's were converted to the "standard" 8x57JS (.323" bullet) during the 1930's. If you have any doubt regarding the bore diameter, have it slugged.
 
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If the bore is good and stock is solid, buy it. They are fun to shoot. It's a unique rifle and is very, very smooth. I paid $300 for mine and it was money well spent. Price range at the gun shows I go to seem to run from $250-$375.
 
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Thanks!

I will bid on it, but I will not pay ANY price. I´ll let you know.

There is a BEAUTIFUL Lahti ( Swedish ) with an excellent trigger there, also!

So many fine guns, so few money ...

Hermann


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This is my 8x57 Portuguese Vergueiro. I scraped off the military finish and found some very nice wood underneith. A nice hand rifle. Just don't try to pull the bolt apart unless you know what your doing. It can shoot bits all over the room and is a bitch to put back together. Big Grin (speaking from experience)



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I have one of these rifles that was converted
to the 8x57 round. I really like it. Very smooth
operation, good sights, sweet shooting.





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