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Hello! Tyler here, shot my Colt AR today and it is the coolest, baddest rifle I ever did shoot! Shot at 25,45 and 100 yards. At 100 yards 6 out of 11 shots(1 bullseye) would have taken out a evil person.(kneeling) No faliures of any kind. Blew up some waterfilled milk jugs too .If anyone is wanting an AR, Colt is the way to go!! Well,from my experience so far. I give da rifle a 10 out of 10. So take that all yall Colt bashers .



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Colt's not the way to go, for a variety of reasons, but AR-15's and accuracy is no surprise. With a scope, you should have no trouble turning in sub moa groups with an off the shelf rifle.
 
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Colt's not the way to go, for a variety of reasons




And why not ?!Please name those reasons,I will be happy to read them.

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Try ordering a trigger group, or another upper receiver for it. The fit and finish on them isn't as nice as the other manufacturers either. You could have probably built 2 very nice rifles for the cost of that 1 Colt.
 
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Are there any uppers from different manufactures(RR, Bushy etc.) that would fit the colt lower? vise versa. Measured the pins at .250", Is this inline with other AR companies takedown pins, or are we SOL.? Thanks, Jay
 
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For someone wanting to purchase an AR15 type rifle, what is a good quality, reliable rifle (in 223)? Will be used for range shooting, coyotes, general fun (no competition of any type) - and what readily available ammo is recommended? Thanks - KMule
 
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DPMS makes extremely nice rifles for the money. Bushmasters are also very nice, but they sell through distributers, so the prices are higher(you have to pay a middleman). Cavalry Arms makes some really neat lightweight rifles for very good prices. JT Distributing/Doublestar Corp makes some very good kits and complete rifles. If you buy a kit, you can assemble your rifle for much less than a factory gun would cost. The uppers from JT are assembled, headspaced, and test fired, you only have to assemble the lower receiver, which is very easy to do. Warrenty issues? It's an AR, you can do it all yourself.
 
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I would not trade my Colt for any of the other AR15's out on the market today. I may have paid a little bit more for the name, but I would be very hard pressed to build two .75 MOA rifles for the same price. All it takes is to buy the adapter pin to fit another manufacturers upper on the Colt lower. You can get large pin trigger groups from a number of sources. I have a JP Enterprises adjustable system in my rifle, it is one of the best riggers available for the AR platform. The finish on my rifle is as good as any other factory rifle I have seen, and after four years of hard use doesn't show signs of wear. I've run close to four thousand rounds through my Colt with no problems. I wouldn't have any problem buying another Colt.
 
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You do pay alot for the name. Alot of factory AR's seem to shoot .75 MOA from the factory, Armalite's especially. Why pay extra for something you can do yourself?
 
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Have you ever even seen a Colt in person,or are you just repeating what you heard from Colt haters?If all those other companies are so good,how come COLT rifles are in the military,not Bushy or DPMS?Otherwise FN makes our A2 rifles and Rock River makes M4s for the DEA.No bushy in sight.I compared My colt to a Bushy of the same type(A2) and the Colt was better in every way.Colt keeps value better too.If you don't like Colt,you probably can't afford one .Fit and finish is very good on mine too.Extremely good.Long live Colt!!!!!

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Jay - just to make sure I understand what you are saying - you DO like Colts? You're pro-Colt? Just checking......

ps: I like'm too - my AR's are Colts, my 1911's are Colts, like they say - the rest are just copies. There IS such a thing as pride in ownership.....
 
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I am pro Colt.I do respect the other AR companies but they don't have the...how do I put this...experience.Colt has been around forever and they know how to make a good gun.Sure,they didn't come up with the AR design,but they made it what it is today.The best.I love my AR like da brother I never had .And if you want an AR...I stand with this statement.Get the best.Get Colt.Hey,that's a nice saying!

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yea right, my 650 bushy will shoot just as well as your 1k colt, just like my 450 mutt 1911 will shoot as well as a colt 1911, they are nice guns, but they do not have anything that the others do not. My bushy is just as tight, no rattles, no squeaks.
 
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On the contrary, Bushmaster did crank out some M16's for Uncle Sam right before the first Gulf War. The reason the military uses Colt is because it's the low bidder. Even if it is a Colt, it's still just a copy. For the record, I can afford a Colt AR, I just don't want one, and here's why:



1) Trigger group parts with oddball sized pins, wtf is this nonsense?



2) Front takedown pins with oddball sizes, wtf is this nonsense?



3) Sear blocks pinned in on some rifles. Yeah, I really wanna risk getting a rifle I can't replace the trigger on without being Harry Houdini.



4) Nonstandard bolt carriers. Why the cutout? Afraid someone might drop a registered lightning link or DIAS into the gun?



5) Fit and finish is no better than, and usually worse than rifles from the other major manufacturers. A rifle built from a JT kit with a DPMS receiver will look as nice, and shoot just as well as a Colt, for about 500 dollars less. Besides, all the other manufacturers buy their parts from the same companies that Colt does(Les Baer and JP being the exception). You don't really think Colt spent a kazillion dollars to buy a machine to punch out disconnectors or charging handles, do you?



6) Price? Why would I spend that much money on something I can do myself?
 
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Colt is a joke,its overpriced and as was mentioned,they use oddball size pins on many civilian models.
 
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Colt is a joke,its overpriced and as was mentioned,they use oddball size pins on many civilian models.






Is 900 for a Colt HBAR too much, and is 1/4" takedown pins oddball? yes, that's 100 more than a Bushy in the same configuration, no big deal. Jay
 
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Open your eyes and admit Colt is just as good as Bushmaster or the others.And they are a copy of Colt.Colt uses normal parts and have exellent fit(NO RATTLING!!!)and finish.I used to want a Bushy.......then I saw the Colt.Bushys are mil-spec....yeah right.1/9 twist,plastic trigger guard,look at their M4s compared to the Colts.Again,I stand with my statement that Colt is the best.Ha,ha,ha.

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Mil-spec? Lets see you buy a set of mil-spec trigger parts and drop them in. BTW, Colt's are just copies of an Armalite.
 
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My rifle is good enough so I don't need any stuff like that to improve it .BTW,what do you have against Colt besides other peoples words?You sound like a broken record.You might be one of those people that stands their ground until someone proves you so wrong you have to agree(don't woory thats not a bad thing,I'm like that too ).I just don't like it that people think of Colt as a firearms joke.They are not a joke.The XM8 is a joke.The SA80 is a joke.Colt rifles are NOT a joke.Not that Bushy is.RR rifles are not a joke either.Thats why the the DEA uses them.

But what we can all agree on is this....We all like our rifles,be they Colt,RR,or Bushy.I'll stop it at that for now.

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No colt is a copy of armalite. Colt is good,its just no better then bushy,armalite or rock river. In fact the vast majority of colt barrels are ER Shaw. You won't beat bushy's chrome lined barrels either. Rock River got the DEA contract,because they were low bidder. FN has the current contract with USMC. Big Deal.



Personally I won't buy a complete rifle in an AR,unless its marked way down,its just too easy to build one yourself with quality parts,for less. The only exception,is when you use colt parts,that are priced out the roof,because of the shetland pony on the side.





AR's are military weapons and being such,they use on any given day dozens of other companys parts to construct them. Regardless of what the finished name is. Colt is well known for using ER Shaw barrels,Mixed and matched lowers and uppers,lower reciever kits and who knows what for furniture. They all do it,depending on who they can get parts from the cheapest.





The worst part about colt,is they use off sized lower and upper reciever pins,so you can't mix and match. In other words,they're fucking you into using only colt parts.



The only advantage so far in owning a colt,is the slight advantage in resale and that will end as more and more people discover that ar's are nothing but snap together weapons.





Gorski is a good name,because you are a dumb pollock.

They all rattle,its not a custom M70. The M4 has a 1/7 twist the majority of M16's use 1/9. Why would you even want a civilian model AR with a 1/7 twist unless you're shooting high power. All that fast twist does,is screw you out of shooting cheap ammo in light weight bullets.
 
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Everything RMK just said.






That was harsh man, funny as hell, but harsh. I'll put a 550 dollar DPMS AR up against a Colt any day. Another reason I dislike Colt is their product line. What do they have now? 3 models? DPMS sells more than models of lower reciever than that... Anyone check out the Colt website lately? Notice how they describe the triggers as "Smooth"? Really nice, maybe that's why all the CMP shooters are using Colt trigger groups.
 
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No not harsh,just reality. Smith and Wesson has gotten so much shit for selling out,but you have colt,who really doesn't believe that the public should even own an AR,so they make a bunch of half assed civilian AR's,that in alot of cases require only their parts.
 
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Hell, Oly Arms offers more chamberings than Colt offers rifles. It is a sad reality. Speaking of sad realities, I've got a Colt in .38 Super here in the shop. Pistol is smooth, and the finish and blueing are beautiful, except for 2 small spots where the the blueing didn't take. No matter though, by the time Heinie gets done with it, it won't be a Colt anymore.
 
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Hey RMK, I resent that remark about being a dumb pollock, or calling my son that, least I've got the "balls" to use my full name, asshole.

BTW, My boy is shooting the cheap Rem. 55grFMJs, and they do a fine job from what I can tell, if he can keep 5 shots inside of 3.25" @100yds. from the kneeling position and open sights, that's doing very well in my book, for a 13yr old. Jay, #1 dumb pollock.
 
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Jay, I won't bash your Colt as I have owned several pre and post bans and they were great guns. The fit was at best only good and the finish on most is sub standard. Now Bushy's had some real POS in the finish dept, remember the purple colored ones
Colt will demand a higher resale price most times. As to Colt using E R Shaw barrels I am not aware of that and have not seen any sound proof relating this.
My AR of choice is a custom built 16" Oly SS Ultra Match sitting on a Diamond lower and none of the Colts I have owned will come close to shooting groups like it.
 
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Thanks you for aknowledging Colt as good firearms producers.I can't wait for the ban to go away so i can get a M4gery of my own and pimp it up as much as I can.Will be cool .As long as you guys don't think of Colt as a joke,but just as good(in my oppinion better)than Bushy and RR,than thats o.k. with me.BTW,RMK,you can think whatever you want...I just wont listen .

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I'll never acknowledge Colt's rifles as being as good as Armalite, DPMS, Rock River, Bushmaster, JP, Les Baer, Double Star, or Cavalry Arms rifles.
 
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they are fine rifles, but they are not as good as others for one reason. can you put any other AR upper onto them? NO, because of that fucked up pin deal they have going. other than that they are fine rifles, I've never shot a colt I didn't like, but the fact is, they charge you more for less. They are sweet shooting, accurate, and run like champs, but they are not as good as a bushy, DPMS, Armalite, RR or anyone else, because they used a dicked up pin size. If I had more money than brains, I'd have no problem buying a colt, but because I'm not rich, I'm going to go with what gives me the most bang for my buck, and my 600 home built bushy, does that.
 
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Dark Paladin, I called Bushmaster on Friday and asked if the bushy upper would fit on a Colt lower, the answer was yes, the Colt we have here has .250" pins, fore and aft, is this not the same size as everyone else? Jay
 
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Oh geez,I'm over fuckin' whelmed gorski isn't going to listen anymore.
 
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I forgot to mention Oly Arms, Alexander Arms, and Tromix. Must be nice to have a Colt that other peoples uppers will pin too. That double screw system was totally absurd. The sear blocks still piss me off when I see them, as do the goofy ass bolt carrier cuts.
 
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Yes dipshit,the colt model they happen to have fits the upper. Thats not to say the model colt you have will fit.
 
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