THE ACCURATERELOADING.COM MILITARY FORUM

Go
New
Find
Notify
Tools
Reply
  
Re: Garand Accuracy...What should I expect?
 Login/Join
 
<eldeguello>
posted
Quote:

I had the Garand out today, and with a light breeze between 5-10 mph,I had a 10 shot group of 3.5" at 100 yds. I was shooting at a slow pace (at least 1 min. between shots). I am going to tighten up the front sight with some teflon plumbing tape stretched over the splines around the muzzle. I had used it before with very good results. I also have some flat based bullets to try. Sometimes that improves accuracy. The rifle functions very smoothly with this particular load. I'll keep you all posted as this progresses.




This would do for military-style target shooting!! Get the NRA M1 book. It gives the entire procedure for turning a stock M1 into a National Match version. With the kind of accuracy you are now getting, your barrel sounds like a good one. If your rifle is tuned properly, I'll bet you'll be surprised at how good it will shoot!
 
Reply With Quote
One of Us
Picture of mike_elmer
posted Hide Post
el,



Actually, I am surprised the guns shoots as well as it does. The Rifleing is in there, but it is obviously worn. The muzzle crown has some dings in it... this rifle was definitely used! I really don't have the money to spend on the rifle and do the stuff I would like to try... i.e. new barrel, glass bedding, etc. I do believe that the rifle may still shoot a little better with some minor tweeking of the load. I am also impressed with the condition of the brass after firing.... it is not dinged or scratched very much at all. It seems that the loading fits the timing of the rifles action so that case damage is minimal.



I did pick that M1 Book when I was at the NRA Headquarters some years back... I just have to find it again!!!



It sure is fun to play and learn!!!
 
Posts: 8421 | Location: adamstown, pa | Registered: 16 December 2003Reply With Quote
One of Us
posted Hide Post
Mike, is that the American Rifleman reprint..... "The M-1 Rifle... Handling, shooting, and accurizing the first gas operated U.S. Service Rifle".

If you can't find your copy, I'll send you mine. I don't need it.

DaMan
 
Posts: 49226 | Registered: 21 January 2001Reply With Quote
One of Us
posted Hide Post
Mike, I would be surprised if you ever got any better accuracy out of your M-1. They are all pretty "long in tooth" by now. The fact that they shoot as good as they do is testimony to how well made they were to begin with.

You might be able to prevent the case dings on ejection by varying your load up or down a tad just to change the rhythm of things.

Parts are cheap. If your's shoots this good, just enjoy and have a blast.
 
Posts: 19677 | Location: New Mexico | Registered: 23 May 2002Reply With Quote
One of Us
posted Hide Post
Pecos, I think you misread Mike's post.

I've never seen an M-1 that damaged brass unless something was terribly wrong.

DaMan
 
Posts: 49226 | Registered: 21 January 2001Reply With Quote
One of Us
Picture of mike_elmer
posted Hide Post
The case damage has been slight dings and nicks on the rim of the fired cartridge. There is a mark on the rim where the extractor slides over the rim upon chambering. It seems to me that the rim may be making contact with the clip during extraction which causes the "nick".

As I was working up the load, the loads with less powder had a tendancy to bend the necks, but as the loads increased, I could feel the timing felt more proper, and the necks were paractically unharmed, except for the occasional fired case landing on the neck and bending it.

As I was firing the Garand on the range today, I noticed that, as I got into a cadence of "acquire sight and fire", my groups got tighter. On the other hand, the more I "tried" to get the proper sight picture, the worse I shot!! Does that make sense to you? I know what I'm thinking, but I'm not sure I explained it well.

Thanks for the offer for the book, DaMan. I know I have it around here.... someplace!!
 
Posts: 8421 | Location: adamstown, pa | Registered: 16 December 2003Reply With Quote
One of Us
posted Hide Post
Mike, I don't have a lot of "expertise" with the M-1. But I've heard a lot of comments from the "old timers" firing ....

Your "heavier" loads are probably closer to the proper gas port pressure.

Not enough port pressure produces a retarded and weak ejection.

Are you sure that mark on the case was not caused by the ejector?

Any striations on the case?

Quote:

As I was firing the Garand on the range today, I noticed that, as I got into a cadence of "acquire sight and fire", my groups got tighter. On the other hand, the more I "tried" to get the proper sight picture, the worse I shot!! Does that make sense to you? I know what I'm thinking, but I'm not sure I explained it well.




When your eyes lose focus on the iron sights, focus them briefly on something very close, then shift back to your sight picture.

With long concentration, your eyes will tend to focus more on the target at long range.... your sight picture will suffer until YOU make the visual correction.

DaMan
 
Posts: 49226 | Registered: 21 January 2001Reply With Quote
  Powered by Social Strata  
 


Copyright December 1997-2023 Accuratereloading.com


Visit our on-line store for AR Memorabilia

 

image linking to 100 Top Hunting Sites