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I've been thinking about getting one. With just one purchase, I can make up the $30 every three years price by not having to us a commercial FFL holder, plus have the convenience of having my purchases shipped right to the house.

Of course, there are disadvantages, too. Like the record keeping and the annual audit (if ATF so chooses).

So I'm asking if anyone here has a C&R license and is it worth it?
 
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I've been thinking about getting one. With just one purchase, I can make up the $30 every three years price by not having to us a commercial FFL holder, plus have the convenience of having my purchases shipped right to the house.

Of course, there are disadvantages, too. Like the record keeping and the annual audit (if ATF so chooses).

So I'm asking if anyone here has a C&R license and is it worth it?


Sure it is worth it.
You need to understand that if a rifle had been modified from original configuration it is no longer a C&R.
With that said you can send copies to many online dealers of Milsurps, ammo and reloading materials and get a dealer discount even though you are not technically a dealer - only a collector.
 
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Originally posted by GAHUNTER:
I've been thinking about getting one. With just one purchase, I can make up the $30 every three years price by not having to us a commercial FFL holder, plus have the convenience of having my purchases shipped right to the house.

Of course, there are disadvantages, too. Like the record keeping and the annual audit (if ATF so chooses).

So I'm asking if anyone here has a C&R license and is it worth it?


Sure it is worth it.
You need to understand that if a rifle had been modified from original configuration it is no longer a C&R.


Yes I understand that. But I have wondered what happens when I purchase a gun off the internet that has already been altered, but still shipped to me as a C&R? Am I in violation, or is the person who sold it to me?
 
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This is logic speaking - if the seller materially misrepresented the firearm as a C&R, the criminal liability would fall on them.

George


 
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Get it. I have had three categories of FFL's for the last 40 years. It will open doors to you that you didn't know existed.


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This is logic speaking - if the seller materially misrepresented the firearm as a C&R, the criminal liability would fall on them.

George


There is a TON of gray area in the C&R FFL arena.

Just ask the ATF a question regarding record keeping and you will find that the ATF itself does not really understand the C&R.


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Posts: 6842 | Location: Nome, Alaska(formerly SW Wyoming) | Registered: 22 December 2003Reply With Quote
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A few points of clarification on C&Rs.

The BATF sent a letter to all holders several years ago that two facets of record keeping changed:

1. BATF record inspections were discontinued due to manpower and budget issues.

2. A holder no longer has to turn in his records when he decides to no longer hold the license.

There are many C&R items that are newer than 50 years old. You may apply for C&R status to be assigned to any item through a BATF procedure.

Modification does not automatically remove the ability of an item to be C&R. If a 1903 Springfield was converted by Griffin & Howe in 1930 to a sporting rifle, it still qualifies as a C&R item as it meets the 50 year criteria.

A C&R is worth having if your primary interests are weapons that are on the C&R list OR can be demonstrated to meet the age criteria for all the reasons noted by previous posters. You still need to keep the "bound book" and perfect records as rules can change.
 
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