I just read the news story, sorry for the victims. I'm also sorry that you guys are going to see another round of gun hysteria.


Gunman Goes on Shooting Rampage at College in Montreal

By William Branigin
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, September 13, 2006; 4:40 PM

A gunman clad in black went on a shooting rampage at a college in downtown Montreal today, wounding several students and sending hundreds of others fleeing for their lives. Police later reported that the shooter was "neutralized," either by police gunfire or suicide.

The shooting, which broke out shortly before 1 p.m. Eastern time at Dawson College, caused panic among students and faculty, who ran from the former convent as police moved in. Heavily armed SWAT teams and canine units went into campus buildings to look for other possible gunmen or shooting victims. Police surrounded the campus, which occupies a city block in Montreal, and ambulances rushed to the scene.

There were initial conflicting reports about the number of gunmen and casualties. Some Canadian news organizations and college officials said there were two shooters and that both had died, but Montreal police referred to only one attacker.

"So far, one suspect has been neutralized," a Montreal police spokesman told reporters on the scene. He said a SWAT team was going through the campus trying to locate other possible suspects.

"We do have people seriously injured," the officer said, but he declined to estimate the number of casualties. The Associated Press quoted hospital officials as reporting that 12 people had been wounded, six of them critically.

Police spokesman Ian LaFreniere later told reporters that the search for other suspects had been called off.

Television news footage showed students running from the campus, some with hands over their heads and several with bloody clothing. Students who had been wounded in the rampage were placed on gurneys and loaded into ambulances.

Witnesses told reporters they saw a gunman dressed all in black and armed with what looked like an assault rifle.

One student shown on CNN with blood on his T-shirt said he saw the gunman shoot at least three students, including a woman who has hit in the arm and leg.

"He could have been a student," the witness said, describing a young man about 19 or 20 years old who was wearing a black trenchcoat and had a "punk" appearance. He said the gunman came into a second-floor cafeteria "out of nowhere" and fired several shots. At one point, the witness said, the gunman shot people who were lying on the floor as police came into the cafeteria to corner him.

"I think he died," the student said of the gunman, adding that he saw the shooter "on the ground, bleeding from the mouth" after police moved in.

Other witnesses said they heard the gunman fire as many as 20 shots. One described him as wearing his hair in Mohawk style. Another told Reuters news agency that he looked like "the stereotype, with the long black trenchcoat and all the studs and piercings and stuff like that."

Student Soher Marous told Canadian television that the shooter, wearing army boots, started his attack outside the college and continued it inside.

Dawson College, founded in 1969, has an enrollment of about 10,000 and offers English-language courses designed to prepare students for university studies.

Today's rampage brought back memories of Canada's worst mass shooting, a spree in which a lone gunman killed 14 women at the Ecole Polytechnic in Montreal in December 1989. As a result of that incident, Canada tightened its gun laws.

Here we go again. Some damned whacko shoots up a school and who's going to look bad is the law abiding gun owners.

the chef

Another shooting in a unarmed vcitim zone where no one is allowed to have the means of defending them selfs.

Another shooting just before the gun Registry might go away.

I find it amazing that a lot of these shooting happen when some major gun control laws are about to happen.

All of you up north have your work cut out for you.

sadly all the signs were there and nobody acted. The Goth thing, calling himself the "angel of death" ,anger at school, life etc.

More proof that our firearm legislation is not worth shit.This is the same story over and over again.A person well known as a nutball, has possesion of firearms, has warned people of his intentions, can comes good on his word.If our firearm laws work how did this happen.The same thing happened here in Sask this summer and resulted in two RCMP dead.The RCMP had big files on that nutball but where powerless to save their own lives.The same thing happened in Alta last year and the RCMP where powerless to save their own lives.We do not need more firearm laws or restrictions. We need more police officers and a justice system that backs them up so they can get these fucking nut jobs behind bars.

this incident has nothing to do with guns.this is a depressed and suffering individual who chose to end his life this way.

I know this incident was caused by a nut job. People kill people,his gun by itself is just a pce plastic and steel.I can just imagine all the hype the anti gun lobby is going to force down the throats of the voting majority of Canada.This incident is linked to firearm access and registration,just like marc lepine.His actions resulted in the punishment of all responsible firearm owners and cost the taxpayers billions.

They've just prevented another 'Columbine 'incident in MI. The way to deal with it is to look for problem kids not guns !!

The "gun culture" problem has more to do with
(1) ultra violent computer games
(2) modern films(esp producers like John Woo)
(3) music lyrics(to a lesser extent, as these kids tend to be white and less likely to be listening to gangsta rap)
I blame interactive computer games with themes like hijacking and street shooting. How do games producers get away with peddling this crap and bear no responsibility? There are kids playing some of these games for 18 hrs at a time, and the content of these games is frightening.
Still, better brace yourselves for more nonsense from the anti"s as they try to blame this incident on gun owners.
sad.

what has more to do with it than anything else is a lack of vitamin sunshine.the brain needs to eat too.its got to see nice things to be convinced there is a reward for working.it has to feel good sometimes.if it always feels bad then these things will happen.iam a genuine phsychiatrist without even going to shool for it.iam sure if all these sick people came to me they would have saved themselves.i've heard some proffesionels give their analyses on this recent shooting incident and i felel that if someone sick had seen them,they would be even more sick afterwards.just as some doctors will make you more sick after you see them and some stupid judges will put you in jail even though you did nothing wrong.

We also have the problem of the person who did this crime is dead so we the Gun collecting and shooting groups are put on trial in his place.

Blaming it on games,music and movies is the same as blaming it on firearms.This nut-job
knew right from wrong.All he wanted was attention.

Since all of his firearms used in the crime were registered, I wonder how people are going to continue to defend the gun registry?

They will tell you that law enforcement uses it every day, it is an important tool they cant be without.They will tell you that firearm related crime has been reduced as a direct result of the registry.They will twist any stat and use misleading surveys to defend their fight.They will at every opportunity call a firearm a weapon to reinforce the evil that firearms represent in their mindset.They will push to have semi auto firearms banned, then pump action firearms,and will keep pushing until not one of us is allowed to have a firearm. Then just the criminals and nutjobs will have weapons.

http://calsun.canoe.ca/News/Columnists/Robinson_Ian/2006/09/17/1852876.html



Gun control won't protect us from the losers

By Ian Robinson


Here he is again, the loser with a grudge and a gun slithering up from the basement of a middle-class home where he fermented his immaturity, anger and resentments to full and deadly potency "interacting" with like creatures on the Internet.

His mom says he was "a good son."

The neighbours' comments -- the banality of this would be screamingly funny were it not for the horror of the event -- amount to this: He was quiet and kept to himself.

Aren't they always.

His resentment and anger are perfectly understandable.

He's a loser and losers spend their lives being angry and resentful.

It's one of the reasons they're losers. Life is something that happens to them. They aren't something that happens to life.

They aren't achievers.

Worst of all, he knows he's a loser, but failing the courage or will to do something about it and actually change, he decides to write his name in the pages of our times with gunfire, and paint a final statement with the innocent blood of students -- young people working toward successful futures.

His victims are everything he is not.

The ultimate proof he's a loser: His final statement, his final moments in life are desperately unoriginal. Just another loser in a long list of losers. The perpetrators of Columbine and Taber and all the others.

He was 25 years old.

Who among us is still so much an angry adolescent at 25?

And thanks to him, yet again, every man or woman in this country who has ever offered up time and devotion to the mastery and pleasure of a rifle or pistol is suspect.

Wendy Cukier, the mastermind behind Canada's obscenely expensive and ineffective gun registry -- she's president of the Coalition for Gun Control -- along with her Liberal Party lapdogs promised us more gun control would make us safer.

Way to go, Wendy.

See, this loser jumped through all the hoops, complied with the gun legislation and guess what?

He passed. His firearms were legally owned.

When questioned in the aftermath of this event, Cukier told CBC that: "The argument for gun control has never been based on individual cases. (It) has always been based on the general principle that if you have adequate control on all guns, you reduce the chances that dangerous people will gain access to them. You don't eliminate them."

Her statement is disingenuous to say the least.

"Disingenuous" is a fancy word for "lie."

The entire gun control and registry debate in this country is, and always has been, based on an individual case, that of the slaughter of 14 female students at Montreal's Ecole Polytechnique in 1989 by another loser with a grudge.

And it has been a debate that has demonstrated a barely concealed hostility toward men in general and male firearms owners in particular.

In Canada, gun control wasn't a public policy issue, it became -- thanks to the 1989 massacre with a male perpetrator and female victims -- part of the nation's ongoing gender wars and was framed in precisely those terms.

Anyone who objected to the content of the legislation -- citing practicality, lack of efficacy, civil rights -- was written off as some kind of psychopathic redneck whose idea of formal wear was to try to iron a crease in his army surplus fatigue pants before plunking himself down in front of Ted Nugent's hunting show on the Outdoor network while chowing down on a big ol' bag of deep-fried pork rinds with his arm around his sister.

That was a lie, too.

There is but a single lesson to be learned from this event.

The people who told you government regulation would protect you against monster losers with grudges were lying.

And when they tell us in the coming days that just a little bit more paperwork, just a few more tweaks to the legislation, that will make us safer, they're still lying.

amen to that.
and to all the other losers out there contemplating their misery.
if you have an uncontrollable urge to shoot the shit out of something,join a gun club and shoot all you can every day. if you have an uncontrolable urge to kill, get a job at a slaughter house.Think your one tough sob and want to kick the shit out of people get involved in ultimate fighting , but most of all quit feeling sorry for yourself pull your head out of your ass. get a life.