I live just 100 miles south of the Canadian Border in Michigan.

I'm not up on the Canadian Government stance on bringing my Contender pistol into Canada to hunt with and would like some assistance with this question.

I'd love to come up and spend some money with my Canadian neighbors hunting black bear and caribou with my Contender pistol.

Forget it.

Utterly, totally, completely impossible....unless you want to break a lot of laws.

There is NO handgun hunting in Canada. Please spend your bucks in a more gun-friendly environment.

CR, pard;

BTW, what area of northern Michigan do you call home?? I have deep Yooper roots, my Mother being born in Hancock. I spent the WW II years in Houghton as a small child, and a herd of my relatives are still living all over the northern U.P.

My answer above is supported by fifty years of living in Canada, incidentally. Am I EVER glad I escaped, back in '97!

Bren is right CR. Hell, our Lieberal govt has even promised to outlaw handguns if they are re-elected. derf

Thanks folks. Lots easier here than trying to wade through all the legal lingo and figure it out myself, eh. I guess an African trip is in the planning, although I'd rather hunt Canada. Can't handle those arcadian laws though.

I live in Iron Mountain, 100 miles south of Marquette. Been to Hancock/Houghton area a bunch.

Carl

Cold Rider:

Don't be too sure about getting a pistol into Africa either! Most African countries don't want you to bring in a single piece of camo clothing - not even a hat. Does that tell you something? Cheer up, though. If you make friends with your PH he'll loan you his Colt Python to take with you on your night trip to the latrine (for the puff adders that might be around) Otherwise, I really don't think you want a pistol to face nyati (Cape buffalo) Just kidding you, so don't take offense.

Handguns hunting Canada? HA,HA,HA,HA. I lived in BC from 1990 till the end of 1996, if things continue as they were and have been since I left, in a few years you won't hardly be able to hunt Canada w/ a rifle. Learn from them gentlemen, and get serious about protecting our right in the USA or will be in the same boat!

Beartrack you have hit the nail on the head with that comment. Protect your rights before you lose them like we did.

As for hunting Africa with a handgun I was there in 2001 with my contender(South Africa) and am hoping to return next summer if all goes well. If all goes as planed I may be trying for a Cape Buffalo with it. From what I have found out so far South Africa and Mozambique still allow handgun hunting and Zimbabwe will allow it with a special permit that the outfitter must apply for. Anyone please correct me if I am wrong.

We are only allowed to have our handguns at home and we can only use them on a government approved range here in Canada (that sucks)so I go to the USA whenever I can. So far Montana and Wyoming and will return as long as the USA allows me to. I am criticized by some for not going on more trips in Canada and keeping our money here but if Canada won't let me hunt here I go elsewhere. Our laws really suck so I repeat what beartrack has said "get serious about protecting YOUR rights in the USA or you will be in the same boat as us!"

Mike

Hey BruceB.......I lived in Hancock....LOVED IT!, loved the yoopers, pasties, thimbleberries, wild mushrooming, fishing, hunting, abandoned apple orchards, wandering, endless gorgeous woods, smelting, Fri, night fish-fries, polkas in the local bars, cheap beer, Saturday morning pancake breakfasts, no need to lock cars or homes, just doggone awesomely sweet life!!!!!!

mikehjd:

It really would be a great story if you could tell us what happens on your Cape buffalo hunt using a pistol. I'm not doubting that you would try to do it (if allowed) but I have a lot of trouble understanding what pistol load would drop nyati- Let me correct that statement - I have a lot of trouble understanding what pistol load would STOP nyati as he come galloping over to discuss why you shot at him! I'm just kidding you and don't mean to be offensive - but have you ever seen nyati at 35 yards? He does not look at you lovingly. He weighs,what? 1500 lbs on average? And many hit hundreds of pounds over that. What bothers me about posts like yours is that people who want to come to Africa and hunt dangerous game get a truly wrong impression. Good luck to you. If I were your life insurance company, I would be getting ready to pay out.

mikehjd:

I should have added to the last sentence of my post - unless your life insurance company could rely on the PH (who didn't carry a pistol but something else)

Good day gerry375

It really would be a great story if you could tell us what happens on your Cape buffalo hunt using a pistol.

If this trip becomes a reality I'll let you know. Right now I don't really know.

I'm not doubting that you would try to do it (if allowed) but I have a lot of trouble understanding what pistol load would drop nyati- Let me correct that statement - I have a lot of trouble understanding what pistol load would STOP nyati as he come galloping over to discuss why you shot at him! I'm just kidding you and don't mean to be offensive

It will be a Thompson Center Contender with a 375JDJ barrel on it. It will be loaded with a 270 grain bullet with a velocity of about 2000fps. Will it be enough? I HOPE SO!!!

- but have you ever seen nyati at 35 yards?

No I have not, this would be my second trip to Africa, the first being a plains game hunt.

He does not look at you lovingly.

Do they ever look at anything lovingly?

He weighs,what? 1500 lbs on average? And many hit hundreds of pounds over that. What bothers me about posts like yours is that people who want to come to Africa and hunt dangerous game get a truly wrong impression.

I'm not sure what you mean by me getting the wrong impression and it bothering you???

Good luck to you. If I were your life insurance company, I would be getting ready to pay out.

I have taken rabbits and grouse with my 1911 while hunting with a rifle. Now was it legal? HELL NO! but what fun I had. I only attempt this in thick areas with little/no other hunters and stay away from trails and roads. New Brunswick actually pushed to get a handgun season opened up to create income from Non-Res hunters, but because it's a federal law it was a no-go.

"Never say never"
It is possible that governments and attitudes could change and some day there could be handgun hunting in Canada. If you say "oh wake up Duffy it will never happen" you are certianly not doing anything positive toward getting things changed. We didn't have crossbow hunting in Alberta not many years ago and because of positive action we now do.

Robin down under

People used to hunt with handguns in Canada until it was banned sometime in the 1930's. A very old game warden long gone, who at one time held the record for brown trout in Ontario (a fish of just over 28 pounds)told me the Ontario Federation of Anglers and hunters brought about the hunting ban because in those day handguns were not powerful enough.

Hangun registration came into effect when it looked like Tim Buck, head of the communist party of Canada in those days, was gathering support during the depression.

But the fact is handgun hunting has been going on in Ontario for a long time although in recent years all illegally. My hunting mentor was a guy named Frank Wreford who died about 20 years ago. Frank's son has tons of old photos of Frank and the boys from southern Ontario hunting deer, bears, woodchucks etc with handguns. These are great old photos of some very old fashioned looking guys (including the local police chief Andy Anderson) with their pistols, their game and their model T Fords.

I will see if I can get them to post.

Handgun hunting has a very old tradition in Canada, as old as in the USA, but it has been seriously interfered with in recent years by TV driven Liberals. But that can be reversed.

VBR,


Ted Gorsline

Oh wake up Duffy, Alberta isn't like the rest of Canada! There is still a modicum of sense in the Alberta legislature. derf

If it weren't for the rural vote Alberta would be just like everywhere else. Back in the "good old days" you could, under the Criminal Code regulations, have a loaded magazine in your rifle while in a vehicle, but you couldn't under Alberta provincial statutes. You could also, I think, group hunt in Saskatchewan, but you had better be the shooter of the animal you tag in good old Alberta. As a matter of fact, it's nearly impossible to even hunt legally at all now; it's just that most of the Fish and Wildlife crew (fish cops, to some)are at times reasonable as well as very short of resources.

Mr. Shields,
Simply, that is nearly the most ignorant comment I have seen on this forum yet. Congratulations, here's your gold star... oh no...tsk, you ate it.

The entire country owes Alberta hunters a huge debt of gratitude for holding the line against the Liberal gun control juggernaut. I don't think a single Liberal was elected in any Alberta riding last time around.

The country also owes a huge debt of gratitude to the Canadian Unregistered Firearms Association which I think is based in Alberta for having the balls to stand up and fight. They are a genuine Walden Pond style civil disobedience organization.

Liberals are evil people and Liberal cabinet ministers are famous for doing illegal things like digging into people's tax returns to intimidate them.

Think of the enormity of what has happened if the Tories deliver on their promise to get rid of the gun registry it will mean for the first time in the history of the world, gun registration has been completely rolled back. It sets a good example for England and Australia.

It is entirely due to hunters from the Republic of Alberta. Ontario, which has the most organized hunters, has never had the stomach for a fight, and remains a collection of forelock tuggers.

VBR,


Ted Gorsline

My friend Ray doesn't mind if we use photos of his father and friends hunting with handguns in Ontario, Canada since back until about 1920 since they are all now dead and Liberal Party storm troopers would have to dig them up to make an arrest. And even torture wouldn't get a confession.The pictures include photos of people like the local chief of police.

He has many on photoshop. What must he do to post them on this web site?

What it does for younger Canadian hunters is show them that handgun hunting is a very old tradition in Canada. It has been temporarily halted but like gun registration there is no reason no reason why this trend ought not to be reversed.


VBR,


Ted Gorsline

quote:

Originally posted by Ted Gorsline:
My friend Ray doesn't mind if we use photos of his father and friends hunting with handguns in Ontario, Canada since back until about 1920 since they are all now dead and Liberal Party storm troopers would have to dig them up to make an arrest. And even torture wouldn't get a confession.The pictures include photos of people like the local chief of police.

That is to funny,

Daryl

quote:

forelock tuggers.

Yes that explains alot about the oppositions idea of a good time. Thanks for sharing that.

LOL

Mr.? (I'm assuming)Fleming:

Just wondering what you are taking exception to: I don't believe I put forth anything that is untrue. Sorry I hadn't noticed your reply earlier. Not interested in a flame war, really.

And I've not eaten any gold stars since Sunday School last week.

Regards:

Mr. J. Shields