I was told by a friend who is very involved in all things concerning guns that the govmint has put forth the demise of the registry. So about the time I started to smile he said in the same bill they are trying to pass they are making the retraction of gun licences for almost no reason even easier. He said in typical govmint fasion they give us something to be excited for and bend us over while we celebrate. I havn't seen it in the news yet so figure its low on the radar.

We shouldn't have to worry about retraction of gun licenses. I think it's the new govt's way of dealing with bad guys. Making it easier and faster to nail them when they screw up. If we're law abiding it won't affect us. Brings to mind the Rosco thing in Mayerthorpe. That dude should never have been able to have firearms.

the chef

Government of Canada re-introduces Bill to abolish the wasteful long-gun registry

OTTAWA, November 16, 2007 — Today in the House of Commons, the Honourable Stockwell Day, Minister of Public Safety, re-introduced important legislative amendments to eliminate the requirement for Canadians to register their non-restricted firearms.

“Our Government has made a commitment to repeal the long-gun registry and we are following through on our promise,†said Minister Day. “These legislative amendments will allow us to continue focusing on more effective measures to tackle crime and keep guns out of the hands of violent criminals. Our goal is to provide law enforcement with the tools and resources they need to combat gun violence and other serious crimes.â€

These proposed amendments will support the Government’s overall strategy to tackle violent crime and keep our families and communities safe. This bill would:

repeal the requirement for businesses and individuals to register non-restricted long-guns; and
require firearms retailers to record all sales transactions of non-restricted firearms, as was the case prior to the imposition of the long-gun registry.
Gun control measures in Canada continue to include the requirement for gun owners to undergo a background check, pass a firearms safety training course, and hold a valid firearms licence before being able to acquire and possess firearms and to acquire ammunition.

These requirements, in addition to enhanced screening measures announced in Budget 2007, will help to maintain public safety for all Canadians. Individuals will also continue to be required to register prohibited and restricted firearms, such as handguns.

Our police officers will continue to be able to determine who is and is not in legal possession of firearms through a quick check of the Canadian Police Information Centre.

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"The federal government has moved to kill the national gun registry again, despite persistent objections from police chiefs and politicians including Toronto Mayor David Miller."

"Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day said the legislation he introduced yesterday is necessary so that the money used for registering weapons with the government can be redirected to front-line policing."

"The bill is meant to fulfill a promise in the Conservative party's election platform and in last month's throne speech, Miller told the Star recently that 'you can't be tough on gun crime without being tough on guns.'"

"'It's not acceptable and the federal government, in fact, should be strengthening our gun laws.'" ...

But, but these proposed amendments will die on the papers as a new election is called soon? As a matter of fact is it not similar to the case re. gun registry ammendments, for the last election. It is almost a signal, a call to a segment of conservative voters, that an election is coming and we are the good guys, remember?

The introduction of this means nothing. It's been there before. Since it is not a matter of confidence it will be defeated by the 3 opposition parties. It's just a call to 'rally the troops' and I for one am sick of their half assed attempts to fulfil their promises to me. If they were serious about abolishing the long gun registry they would have attached it to a money bill and made it a matter of confidence. The prick that represents us in Ottawa sat at my table for 5 hr. before the election telling me how they were different, now he can't seem to find his phone when it rings. I assume he'll be home for Christmas and I'll be driving over. Mark

Actually, the Conservatives have served notice that all bills, this session, will be considered Confidence motions. We'll just have to see if the Liberals are willing to go to an election, over this issue, since the Gun Registry is apparently quite popular in Quebec.
Grizz

The registry is also popular in 'moronto' where miller and co. have the masses believing guns are responsible for everything bad, from gang crime to crumbling overpasses and crooked polititians.
The gov't can call an election anytime,so basing an election call on a defeated bill is their call, however it is my understanding that only money bills are true 'confidence motions' In typical conservative fashion these guys take the western vote for granted and have begun the cash flow east policies of previous cons. gov'ts. The back room cons. of old are now driving the bus and things don't look all that great for western Canadians. The sooner a 10 ft. wall is built north/south at Thunder Bay the better.Mark

Keep in mind that the only folks who can make this not happen is the opposition, as the Conservatives don't have a majority. Why don't they Conservatives have a majority? Because unlike the anti-gun lobby who gets everyone of their members out to vote, the pro-gun lobby tends to sit on their duffs waiting for someone else to vote. There is a good probablity that we will be in an election this spring, and if you don't get out and vote Conservative and get your friends to do the same, please don't start b-tching when the whole thing collapses.

What I cant figure out is: why does the notion of punishing criminals who use guns to commit crimes seem so foreign to the politicians? Liberal, Conservative,NDP...they all seem to ignore the solution. No need to bleed the tax payers and legitimate gun owners like the Liberal vampires. Just make the gang bangers, robbers, murderers, etc pay for their crimes. Gun laws and the registry has no effect on these people, so why beat the horse that is long dead and bloated with tax dollars?
Wake up!!! Gun crimes are not being committed by responsible gun owners with registered firearms.(or perhaps a very small percentage) Gun control is not crime control ..too bad the Liberals have brain washed the "city folk" who hold the majority of the vote into thinking it is.

I read a story from an RCMP senior officer that said he was in support of abolishing the stupid gun registry. His point, plain and simple was, it's totally misleading. Every rookie officer is trained to check the gun registry before entering a residence. After running the info, prob most times, there are no registered guns, therefore it is safe to enter....wrong! Do they really think that a criminal who is willing to do a crime with his gun is going to register it?!? Stupid stupid stupid! Waste of time...money...and resources.

You well have to learn just as we did in the states IT'S NOT ABOUT CRIME CONTROL. Its about people control. Crime control is just one of their many excuses.

Until I can walk into a gunstore and walk out with my rifle or shotgun and not have paper work come in the mail will I believe that the longun registry is dead.

On a similar note, a SK. member introducrd changes to the criminal code which would have increased sentences for auto theft. It was defeated by the liberals and ndpricks as too harsh. There is no sense in politics. Mark

I appear to be in the minority, I didn't grow up in a multi-generational gun/hunting family and I would be supportive of testing/good storage laws and enhanced background checks to get a license as opposed to the silly registry.

Guys like the hells angel leader in montreal, mayerthorpe, hay river etc, had no business owning firearms legally. The idiot in montreal that shot the cop with his 338 through the door who the courts allowed to keep his guns during hunting season when they had already established he was dangerous is another ridiculous example.

It always made more sense to me if Gun control was the goal it was more important to screen owners than register specific firearms.

I think Louis L'amour said it best..."when guns are outlawed, only the outlaws will have guns"

No criminal is going to take the tests, go through the screening process and background checks, and register a gun. They buy it off the street and use it as they please. I still say the only way to control crime is to punish the offenders, not hassle the honest people.