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I am considering another Dall sheep hunt. My first one was a horse-assisted hunt a few years ago to the Wrangell Mountains, which was not successful in terms of bagging a legal sheep but was a great experience in beautiful country, although the outfitter left a bit to be desired. I'm sure there are some real fine sheep guides in Alaska, but it seems that just about all of them in the Yukon and NWT's are top-notch.

I know there was a thread a little bit ago, but am curious if anybody knows why the hunts in the NWT tend to run $3-$4000 more then in the Yukon. Bigger/older sheep, higher numbers…or just a higher cost structure and/or demand? I know it is hard to generalize, but is the country in the NWT somehow better/prettier then in the Yukon?

Specifically I am looking at Widrig's in the Yukon (concession boarders the NWT) and Stan Simpson (Ramhead) and several others on a cancellation basis or for 07 (Artic Red River & Stan Stevens booked well in advance…but I'm "on the list"). I'd appreciate any specific references.

I am still considering backpack versus horseback….which is somewhat dependent on the concession and outfitter.

My email is bill@wyodata.com if you would prefer to email me or have me call you.

Thank you.

Bill
 
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Most outfitters in canada have to purchase their hunting areas. This initial investment would be a large factor in costs. In Alaska most of the sheep areas are open to any guide who chooses to hunt them. The exclusive use areas in AK are given to the outfitter by the state through an application process and cost the outfitter nothing. The other thing to consider is the regulation on sheep. In Canada I believe a 3/4 curl ram is legal, in AK it must be full curl. I have hunted sheep in AK twice, both successful and would be more than happy to chat if you would like.


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Hi Bill,
I don't think that the sheep taken in the NWT are really any bigger than the ones in the Yukon. The price difference my be in the transportation costs as helicopters are permited to be used in the NWT. As far as the scenery goes I think it would be of equal class.
If I were a non resident hunter and wanted a hunt for sheep I would booked with Dan Reynolds or Jim Fink both are great outfitters and get their clinents on some great rams. I believe Dan won the Stone sheep catagory at the outfitters banquet this year with a 173 ram. He has stones and dalls as does Jim Fink.These outfitters maybe hard to get a booking with as they have alot of repeat customers. Tim Mervyn gets some big dall sheep too.

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The use of helicopters in not common practice for hunting in the Mackenzie Mountain range.

You need to decide what type of hunt you want to go on: backpack or horseback. That will greatly influence which outfitters to use.

Most outfitters should be booked for 2006. If they are not, that should raise questions as to why they are not booked.
 
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I hunted moose with Chris Widrig in '04. Had a great hunt. Awesome country. Want to go back for sheep asap. Don't think you would be disappointed. TTS
 
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The use of helicopters in not common practice for hunting in the Mackenzie Mountain range.


It never used to be, but it sure is getting common. I know that Redstone and South Nahanni use them for sure, and have been told that Nahanni Butte is using them. Not sure who else is at this point.

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Originally posted by Bill C:
I am considering another Dall sheep hunt. My first one was a horse-assisted hunt a few years ago to the Wrangell Mountains, which was not successful in terms of bagging a legal sheep but was a great experience in beautiful country, although the outfitter left a bit to be desired. I'm sure there are some real fine sheep guides in Alaska, but it seems that just about all of them in the Yukon and NWT's are top-notch.

I know there was a thread a little bit ago, but am curious if anybody knows why the hunts in the NWT tend to run $3-$4000 more then in the Yukon. Bigger/older sheep, higher numbers…or just a higher cost structure and/or demand? I know it is hard to generalize, but is the country in the NWT somehow better/prettier then in the Yukon?

Specifically I am looking at Widrig's in the Yukon (concession boarders the NWT) and Stan Simpson (Ramhead) and several others on a cancellation basis or for 07 (Artic Red River & Stan Stevens booked well in advance…but I'm "on the list"). I'd appreciate any specific references.

I am still considering backpack versus horseback….which is somewhat dependent on the concession and outfitter.

My email is bill@wyodata.com if you would prefer to email me or have me call you.

Thank you.

Bill




Bill,
I will also recommend Chris Widrig for Dall in the Yukon, if you want to backpack I hear Stan Stevens is the man.
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Thanks guys for the posts and pm's/emails thus far. I really like AR. Yes, most all I contacted are booked tight, even until 2008.

Canuck & Peakebrook, pls help me fully understand the use of a helecopter. Is this to get the hunters out to a different part of the area to start hunting - or do they actually drop them off up the mountain after sheep are spotted like in NZ and elsewhere? The latter I would NOT be at all interested in. Don't most use some form of transportation even on a BP hunt? Still learning here...

Here's South Nahanni's website (reg use of helecopters), who I did not contact: http://www.huntnahanni.com/hunts.html

Thanks! Bill
 
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A little while ago I reread the story on how the Chadwick ram became the world record... The hunting party had been trekking on horseback for 18 (!!!) days, to reach some good sheep hunting grounds, when they figured some fresh meat would be welcome. Their meat hunt brought them this wonderful trophy.

E i g h t e e n days, and they hadn't really reached the intended area just yet. Now we use helicopters....

Frans
 
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Contact Tim Mervyn at http://www.yukonsheep.com

We're talking a 10,000 square mile area that the outfitter knows like the back of his hand. He is also protective enough of his area that he is hesistant to hire locals as guides and won't enter his sheep into the Yukon based annual competitions. In fact, having hunted his area twice for Bison, I have been sworn to secrecy about access points and prime sheep areas. I will hunt with Tim many more times in my life and if I were a sheep addict, I would look no farther.

JMHO,

John
 
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pls help me fully understand the use of a helecopter. Is this to get the hunters out to a different part of the area to start hunting - or do they actually drop them off up the mountain after sheep are spotted like in NZ and elsewhere? The latter I would NOT be at all interested in. Don't most use some form of transportation even on a BP hunt?


Its for transportation of hunters into, and hunters+game out of, areas for backpacking hunting. There are regulations around spotting game from helicopters, hunting within so many hours of being dropped off, etc. In the past, many of these hunts were conducted using Piper Super Cubs, but obviously a Super Cub can get in to as many places as a helicopter.

I am with Frans. The allure of sheep hunting is the habitat they live in and the effort required to get one. Dall sheep in particular are easy to find once your in good country, and only moderately difficult to approach (kinda like goat hunting). Take away the effort and it loses its attraction to me.

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I thought about going then got a price quote that knocked me down.Never thought it would be so expensive.
 
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