Seems to me that when I was in Alberta a few years ago I saw Bighorns in Jasper Park. My quesion is, does Alberta also have Stone and Dall sheep, or just Bighorns.
Okay, so are their any Grizzlies in Manitoba or Saskatchewan? There supposedly were some in pioneer times, but I haven't heard of any recent cases. Grizz
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Grizzly Adams- No grizzly in manitoba, just black bears and polar bears. Sask may have some grizzlies but there isn't a huntable population.
If you have that much to fight for, then you should be fighting. The sentiment that modern day ordinary Canadians do not need firearms for protection is pleasant but unrealistic. To discourage responsible deserving Canadians from possessing firearms for lawful self-defence and other legitimate purposes is to risk sacrificing them at the altar of political correctness."
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Boilerroom- There is lots of elk in manitoba and several seasons every year but as of now they are only for residents through a draw system
If you have that much to fight for, then you should be fighting. The sentiment that modern day ordinary Canadians do not need firearms for protection is pleasant but unrealistic. To discourage responsible deserving Canadians from possessing firearms for lawful self-defence and other legitimate purposes is to risk sacrificing them at the altar of political correctness."
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There are some really big bear tracks in northeast Albdrta....I'm not saying they are grizzlies. I'd not want to encourage people to go looking for grizz in north east AB. no way no siree. Thems awfully big tracks though.
tons of elk,zero sheep, and the plains grizzly was wiped out with the buffalo.I did see a picture of a huge bear taken in the early 1900 in the pasquia hills, it was not a black bear. The provincial govt could & should get rid of the elk draw and expand the regular tag system to those zones.
I asked Manitoba Natural Resorses that same question,if there are Grizzlies in Manitoba. They said yes. Barren ground Grizzlies, Manitoba Elk are the biggest bodied elk in North America.When elk farming was a big thing a few years ago, Manitoba bulls were the most desireable for breeding.
Many years ago Carl Monk, a long time conservation officer with the Ontario Ministry of Natural resources told me an Indian trapper told him he had seen a grizzly bear near the Black Duck River which is near the Ontario Manitoba border. Carl said the Indian was familar with both black and polar bears and he said this wasn't a polar bear that had been rolling in the mud.
VBR,
Ted Gorsline
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Originally posted by kitako: tons of elk,zero sheep, and the plains grizzly was wiped out with the buffalo.I did see a picture of a huge bear taken in the early 1900 in the pasquia hills, it was not a black bear. The provincial govt could & should get rid of the elk draw and expand the regular tag system to those zones.
I was born in the old Carrot River hospital ( across the river toward Arborfield) and raised in Smoky Burn. In Smoky Burn and Papakwin the elk were regarded as pests!
About 1935 elk were introduced into Ontario from Alberta in several places. I know where some gather in May near the old Burwash Crown Game preserve and I have photographed them there. In the last few years more have been introduced to various places. Bison were also introduced near Burwash in the 30's. About twenty years ago I went looking for the buffalo. I went down the French river and near a lake on the north shore of the French river which is locally called "Rubber Ducky" because it has that shape I found bison tracks and dung that appeared to be about a month old. I would say there were about 20 animals. But I have not been back since nor have I heard any more about them.
Both the bison and elk seemed to have trouble adapting to all the lakes in the region and many of them drowned in the ice during the spring break up.
Randolph Peterson, who was once curator of mammalogy at the Royal Ontario museum, showed me the skull of a grizzly bear found in a gravel pit near Lake Simcoe. It was deposited there before the last ice age more than 10,000 years ago.
Likely if you re-introduced grizzly bears into what is now Ontario's cottage country they would likely survive. Or if not western grizzlies then European brown bears from Scandinavia (also Ursus arctos)which occupy a habitat similar to eastern Canada.
If you read Father Louis Hennepin who was one of the first visitors to southern Ontario he talks about buffalo just south of the Great Lakes. He also talks about wild bulls in Ontario but just what those wild bulls might be is difficult to know. Maybe they were an early form of feral cattle or maybe they too were bison. There are about 50 bison farms in southern Ontario and the animals do well there.
I also think barren land grizzly bears would survive if introduced into northern Quebec and Labrador. As would dall sheep in the Torngat Mountains. They may all have been there before the last ice age.
VBR,
Ted Gorsline
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.366TORQUE a small world we live in . I lived in Carrot River late 80s also Arborfield and Zenon Park. Worked seasonal at the dehys,have a lot of good friends from the area. My best friend lived straight east of Carrot at the end of the road by the gravel pit.Another about 4 miles south and i think 6 or 8 east.They farmed land in the Burn,Holuks.Lets compare notes.
I saw alot of elk in the Riding Mtn Nat Park in Manitoba. We did a drive through there. It was an amazing place. Black Bear, Whitetails, Moose, Elk, wolves, Lynx, Etc... I was up there black bear hunting with a friend who owns a few thousand acres of land near the Park, and he and his family have some elk on the wall in the house that make book (B&C) from the region. But, as said earlier, its only for residents of Manitoba. Lucky devils!
Scottyboy We also have cougar.I was born and raised in the park. My dad was a park warden in the park for 35 years.(Retired in 1980)He spent most of his time on horseback. He can tell some pretty amasing stories of what he saw.
