Canada: Tory plan to kill long gun registry going strong
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"Canada's new minister of public safety says the government has no plans to back off on its intention to scrap the controversial long gun registry."

"Prime Minister Stephen Harper announced his plan to kill the registry during the election campaign, and Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day told CTV's Question Period the plan hasn't changed."

"'We're not backing away at all,' Day said on Sunday. 'We're moving ahead on this. It was an election promise. It's something we've been talking about for years.'" ...

From www.keepandbeararms.com

Pretty nifty! Hope they do follow through and destroy all records!

Good luck to my Northern friends!

When its the law then I will believe it.

I spoke with our local federal PC member Rick Norlock earlier this week. He stated as above that they intended to move ahead with the scrapping of the long gun registry. He was optimistic that it would eventually happen. Lets hope he's right.

Canada: Gun registry cost may soar past $2B
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"A pending report by Canada's auditor general is expected to peg the price tag on the national gun registry program at well over $2 billion, says a spokesman for a government MP." ...

"Official Ottawa is holding its breath for a possible May release of the attorney general's report, which Stephen Harper's government is billing in advance as a damning investigation of waste and mismanagement in the registry program -- originally forecast to cost just $2 million."

"If the report lives up to its billing, it could give the Conservatives the political ammo they'll need to cancel the program over the objections of Liberal, Bloc and NDP MPs in a precarious minority Parliament

Some more info from www.keepandbeararms.com

Just bent the ear of an employee at my Conservative MP's office. Told her it's time to get rid of the registry.

Also told her that I think the handgun registry is just as useless, but I'd settle for fewer restrictions on licenced handgun owners.

I WANT TO BE ABLE TO HUNT WITH MY HANDGUNS!!!

Canada: Conservatives to gut gun registry
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"Many gun owners could soon get a break from the gun registry under plans by the Conservative government and, according to local hunters and business, that would be a good thing."

"According to the CTV News Web site, the government plans to grant an amnesty to rifle and shotgun owners, which means the registry would apply only to handguns and automatic weapons."

"The Conservatives also plan to waive the $60 fee paid by more than 1.5 million Canadians this year to renew firearm registrations."

"Brian Hoffart, president of the Saskatchewan Outfitters Association, praised the decision."

"'That?s where it should be in the first place,' he noted, adding the money saved can go towards initiatives such as extra police and health care." ...

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Great news. Unbelievably good news. It was the boys in the west who did it. No one else. The boys in the west.

Time to licence Fox news in Canada so the Liberal media will have to compete instead of dictate.


VBR,


Ted Gorsline

Read this guys:

Toronto, February 23, 2006

The Honourable Bill Graham, MP
Leader of the Opposition
The Honourable Sue Barnes, MP
Justice Critic
House of Commons
Ottawa, Ontario
K1A 0A6

Dear Mr. Graham,
Dear Ms. Barnes,

As you are certainly aware, the newly elected Conservative government is
currently working to dismantle the Canada’s firearms registry. They have
already put together a special committee comprised of two ministers and
a Member of Parliament to work specifically on this file. The MP in
question, Mr. Garry Breitkreuz, has even indicated that his party may
decide not to put their decision to a vote in the House of Commons.

The Liberal Party has always understood the importance of Canada’s gun
control laws. We are therefore asking, one more time, for your support
in order to preserve this important piece of legislation, for which
together, we worked so hard in the past.

The Canadian laws on gun control, as well as the licensing and
registration requirements serve Canadians in many ways:

o They are essential in the prevention of acts of violence,
including acts of domestic violence, and accidents.
o Despite the recent gang related violence in the streets of
our major cities, since 1989, every year 500 less people are
killed by firearm.
o The Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police supports our
law and police officers across the country use the gun
registry over 5000 times per day. It has also been used many
thousands of times to produce affidavits to support
prosecutions.
o While gangs prefer to use handguns, rifles and shotguns are
the ones most often used in cases of suicide, domestic
violence, or accidents. Many women’s groups and public
safety groups, as well as the Canadian Association for
Suicide Prevention have recently restated their support for
this law.
o The recent shooting death of Constable Valérie Gignac, of
the Service de Police de la Ville de Laval, is a tragic
reminder that shotguns and hunting rifles are just as
dangerous as handguns, and that their registration is
equally as important.
o All illegal firearms were at some point, legal firearms. It
is therefore essential to have good controls over legal
firearms. It is impossible to prosecute for illegal gun
possession without a proper licensing and registration
system. In spite of efforts by the National Rifle
Association (NRA), these principles are well understood
internationally.

The cost of the current licensing and registration of guns has been
greatly exaggerated by our critics. Licensing and registration of all
firearms costs about $80 million per year. Cancelling the registration
requirements for rifles and shotguns, as is thought to be the
Conservative Party’s plan, would only save about $10-15 million per
year, as most of this $80 million is used for licensing.

The attached article, from the Melville Advance, tells that the
Conservative Party does not believe it can win a vote in the House of
Commons on this issue, and that they are already changing parts of the
legislation. We not believe this is not a democratic way of proceeding.

Would it be possible to organize a meeting as soon as possible to
discuss this matter further?

We appreciate your willingness to work with us on this issue to stop the
Conservative Party in this undertaking. We also hope that you will be
able to work with other opposition parties on this issue.

Sincerely,

Wendy Cukier
President
Coalition for Gun Control

Cc: Liberal MPs

This is STILL just "window dressing" and it is EXACTLY what I expected Harper to do; it is a minor, temporary respite from the systematic destruction of individual, British-style liberties that has gone on in Canada since "the Depression". Harper is EVERY bit as opportunistic and power-hungry as the various Liberal Prime Ministers were and he is NOT going to honour his pre-election promise to get "rid" of this entire statist mess....as I knew and said he wouldn't. Contemporary Canadian politicians are, with very few exceptions, scum, many of whom are immigrants from India, etc., who want to totally take-over this country AND are doing it!

While we can be pleased with this tiny victory, we must NOT lose sight of the fact that the legislation will STILL be in place to re-institute registration and the Commies of the N.D.P., the foreign scum of the Liberals, like Gagliano, Dhaliwal, Dosanjh, Keith Martin and the rest WILL do so any chance they get......or worse!

We NEED a Constitutional Amendment in Canada to ABSOLUTELY GUARANTEE the individual Canadian's RIGHT to keep and bear arms and we need it NOW! We also need to start bringing in our immigrants from European nations, such as Peter's birthplace,from whence the newcomers here APPRECIATE Canada and desire non-statist FREEDOM. ALL immigration from Asia, Africa and so forth should be permanently banned as this travesty of "democracy" is where the Liberal/N.D.P. evil coalition gets it's warped support from.

Freedom is not cheap and we have paid for our's and other's at Ypres, Courcellette, Canal Du Nord, Hong Kong, Dieppe, Normandy, the Rhineland, Kapyong and, now, in Afganistan. It will NOT be preserved by some politically expedient tinkering with legislation that is fundamentally totalitarian and we have very little time left...................

Few days ago Wendy Cukier and Tony Bernardo (head of CSSA) was on the talk MOJO 640 with the host John Oakley. She lost the battle with Tony big time.They had to cut off the show, not finnish like they ussualy do. She could not argue with the truth.
One example was:
WC ... I believe long gun registry works ...
TB ...So what happen in ALberta, one year ago...
WC ... exactly, RCMP officers were killed with long rifle...
TB ...was it registered?...
WC ...pause...
TB ... yes, the unregistered and stolen guns killed people and this has got nothing to do with law abiding hunters and sportsman...

Guys,

please take a look at this. Excellent material to read, written by one of the proffesors from Simon Fraser University.



Guns and Gangs

The latest thing that I have heard(it was just this morning) is that one of the Conservative members want to ban ALL lead shot in the country. This would effectively ruin the value of many good older shotguns and put a real crimp in some of the shooting sports.
This info came from the Director of Communications for a gun club in the Fraser Valley who also works for Mr.Fast, the MP for Abbottsford. derf

Kutenay is right about Liberal party support. According to the Star, which I don't like to quote, 60% of the people living in Toronto were not born in Canada and it is the Greater Toronto Area (GTA) alone that keeps the Liberals in power.

That's why Martin wanted to bring in 300,000 more immigrants a year. Its to rig the voting. He said it was to offset the falling birth rate. But if you want to increase the birth rate just start a civil war. That's were all the baby boomers came from. From WW2.

The last election was between people who have been in Canada for many generations and they voted Tory and people who are fresh off the boat and they voted Liberal. I think they can vote after three years. The Liberals represent aliens. They do not represent Canadians.

The best way to raise your standard of living is to renounce your Canadian citizenship and swim ashore as a landed immigrant. You then get everything a Canadian citizen gets plus you get free dental care and a native of Canada cannot get that.

VBR,


Ted Gorsline

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Ted is largely correct with respect to the major urban areas in Canada AND these primarily determine the election results in most elections. While some of the rural areas tend to be less consistent in their support of the Liberals, I think that the great majority of immigrants, especially non-traditionals, have and do support the Liberal Party of Canada, that is certainly the case here in Vancouver.

The problem is that almost ALL politicians ENCOURAGE the current immigration-multiculturalism mess which gives rise to the arrogant attitude on the part of many immigrants that they are somehow doing Canada a favour by coming here. This, in turn, causes many Canadians to hate ALL immigrants which is not a productive state of affairs for anyone concerned.

The gun ownership issue and the immigration issue are inextricably intertwined; I agree with Ted's point about who the Liberals REALLY represent as they certainly do not represent me or any other REAL Canadian. As to the unions, they have gone down the road of socialist seduction so far that even former strong union supporters like me now find them abhorrent.

The real answer here is a massive change in immigration and citizenship-multiculturalism policy with a re-newal of hardcore CANADIAN nativist nationalism....and I think that this is possible, but, unlikely. The situation in OUR northern waters MAY inspire Canadians to greater concern for Canada and our Nordic traditions, but, the multicultural, immigrant, advantage-taking foreign hordes are here and they are most of our problem.....gawdam Trudeau's black, fag, commie soul!

The GTA area is composed mainly of non Canadians and they do vote Liberal. That is chisled in stone.

VBR,


Ted Gorsline

Dear Alf. I have clearly pissed you off and that is fair ball. But I must thank you for voting Tory in the last election. I have never been a member of any Canadian political party but last time around the choices for hunters and shooters were clear cut.

You are correct about the NDP. They are mainly the teacher's union and mainly Canadian and a pretty dreadful lot at that. As teachers they go to school, go to school again and then go back into school to teach. They never leave the womb and they spend their lives aftre that in committee meetings where they simply try to remain inconspicuous so they can hold onto their jobs.

I once met Ed Broadbent in Arusha where he was attending the trial of Hutu murderers. I talked to him for at least an hour. He struck me as a Mississippi River boat gambler. I would never loan him money.


VBR,


Ted Gorsline

I tell you what I think,

Firstly, I am a new immigrant to Canada and if you wanna listen this is what I would like to see change.

1. Multiculturalism must be scraped. Whoever decides to come here must realize this is Canada

2. Controlling immigration is the key. I came during Murloney time and from place where we despise left oriented political movements. So my votes go to the right side.
There should be balance in the way new immigrants come here. There is such place like Europe, not only South-East Asia. I don’t say stop bringing people from Asia, but don’t forget about Europeans

3. Schools have to start teaching more about culture and history of this country, so Canadians know their land by heart

4. Mandatory army service for all males between 18-25. It maybe bit expansive at beginning, however it will pay back big time. It will teach young males the tradition and shaped them into Canadian mainstream, also prepare them to be more responsible adults.

5. Never change Canadian accomplishments and tradition for minorities. They have their place however they must accept culture and history or tradition of this nation. Best example is an East Indian male allowed to wear his turban in RCMP forces.

6. Sort out he mess with Native People. They are the same like everyone else and shouldn't be granted special rights!

My list can go on and on. But number one is getting rid of multiculturalism and creating system of melting pot with heavy stress on Canadian values as values of people who created this country not values of various religions and groups who try to hijack all the accomplishments.

My 2 cents

Peter Pan,
I am with you 110%!!! Thanks for your post!

Regards,
Graham

My main worry about immigration to Canada is that it is being used as a tool for expansion by Red China to take control of Canada and its resources.

Democracy is mob rule and they have the numbers to flood the country with immigrants and take control.

Red China is a might is right culture. All they have to do is bribe the Canadian embassy staff in Hong Kong to pave the way.

I met a guy, now retired, who worked in Canada's Hong Kong embassy and he said that in fact is what they have done. He said the Hong Kong Triad already owns 20 % of Ontario industry and much of Vancouver.

The Triad left Hong Kong when the communists took over but some seem to have made an accomodation with the Red Chinese government and are now moving back.

Here are some names to keep in mind. Maurice Strong. Strong has been an advisor to Pierre Trudeau, Jean Cretien, Paul Martin and now with Kofi Annan.

He was formerly a leader in the Russia-Canada friendship Society with Paul Nathason. This was alleged communist front organization during the cold war. He was somehow involved involved in the oil for food program with Saddam Hussein. His family were somehow linked to the communist revolution in Red China. Likely had something to do with Parks Canada making the "Norman Bethune" monument. Strong is still around. There was a very good article about Strong in Macleans Magazine years ago. Good stuff on the internet too.

Lee Kai Shing, allegedly the richest man in Asia. His sons such as Victor Li (who tried to buy Air Canada) own Husky oil in Calgary. There is apparently already a pipeline being built from the oil sands directly to the Pacific Ocean which means the oil will go to China. He is tight with the head of the Red Chinese Army. They are developing Tiannamen Square together. Oddly enough he bought up both ends of the Panama canal. Another strange duck worth watching.

Anyhow I think the Americans are well aware of what is going on. That is why they just made a treay with India - to contain China and match the populations. That is why they developed the B2 bomber.

That's todays conspiracy theory.


VBR,


Ted Gorsline

Ted,your a bright man!

IIRC, Strong is a member of the CFR and the Tri-lateral Commision. People to be watched indeed. derf

More Chinese on the March Stuff:

While on the topic of Chinese expansion here are a few other things worth noting. A Canadian company sold their oil rights in Sudan to China following media hand wringing about human rights in the Toronto press. My African contacts tell me there are now thousands of Chinese soldiers in the Sudan. I would assume guarding the pipeline.

The Chinese are now building a paved road from Mombasa in Kenya to mineral rich Kivu province in Eastern Congo. They,like everybody else wants Congo's resources.

The world shipping market is saturated. That is there are enough ships to handle all freight and trade currently going on in the world. In the face of this the Chinese are building 42 new shipyards (not ships - shipyards). They either plan to move alot of freight, or people or both in the not too distant future.

Lee Kai Shing also owns a company in California that was caught smuggling 2,000 AK-47 rifles to the American Indian Movement (AIM). Former Canadian PM Brian Mulroney is a director of that company.

Lee Kai Shing owns much of the old Toronto CNN railroad yards with Peter Munk. They tried to get the Canadian taypayers to pay to develop their waterfront property for the Olympic games but were unsuccessful.

Anyhow these are interesting links and connections. Not sure what they mean but the Red Chinese and the individuals above are on the move and worth watching.


VBR,


Ted Gorsline

Addenda to the above. Just thought about it. The TO Star mentions that one of the possible leadership candidates for the Liberal party is Bob Rae. Bob Rae is the former NDP premier of Ontario. He virtually trashed the economy of Ontario while in power. The most incompetemnt government in the history of Ontario. His claim to fame while he was premier of Ontario was bringing Chinese owned gambling casinos to Ontario. He now works for the legal firm of Goodman and Goodman, a very well known Toronto law firm specializing in the media. I have used them. They are good. He works for them developing Chinese relations. Fast Eddy Goodman, who owns Goodman and Goodman, was the bag man for Bill Davis when he was premier of Ontario. Like someone said they all belong to the same club.

VBR,


Ted Gorsline