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Afternoon, I’m an outfitter on the North Coast British Columbia, Canada, with a 2,100 square mile / 5,300 sq km territory... and a love of open Africa. I like to get my hands dirty too, and want to propose a volunteer experience swap. Don’t need to shoot anything but would love to get back to Africa and help an outfit with the menial stuff, best travelling hunt of my life was Zim 2010.

On your end, would put you out for from two weeks to the whole the season assisting with everything from splitting wood to packing out Mountain Goats. Ride the plane, drive the ocean boat, ride the river / jet boat, fish. Set up wall tents, move em, cape, etc. I’d expect to work at least as hard in return and it doesn’t have to be glamorous.

I’m functional in French, and would enjoy being somewhere that’s useful. Multi thousand hour rotary / heli pilot, fixed wing bush pilot as well if that’s helpful but imagine not. Like to work and like new experiences, out to meet new folks and trade some campfires and fun in a life experience swap. Neither of us pays anything but airfare.

Tall order, I know, but might as well put out the feeler.

Angus

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Posts: 534 | Location: Northern British Columbia | Registered: 06 June 2015Reply With Quote
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On your end, would put you out for from two weeks to the whole the season assisting with everything from splitting wood to packing out Mountain Goats. Ride the plane, drive the ocean boat, ride the river / jet boat, fish. Set up wall tents, move em, cape, etc
Angus, cool idea and I hope it works out....but I think you are looking to trade places with an African Tracker, not a PH!

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I seen to many trade for work come out badly.

The 2nd guy usually losses. To many times I seen the 2nd guy never getting his share.

Prime ensample daughter is a good book keeper she makes a deal with a cabinet maker to redo her counter tops.

She does the books he never called her back to do the counter tops.

There are many horror stories like that out in the trading for work area.

Here is a hunt related one I revived a call from a friend who told me that a friend of his had a bear tag for the area I live in.

He was wondering if I could take him hunting. I said have him give me a call.

After several conversation he seemed like a ok person to take hunting. We set up an date and time.

During the conversations he promised to take me on a pheasant hunt at his sons farm in Nebraska.

He came up hunting on the third day he shot a nice bear.

He said we would go pheasant hunting around the first week of November a month and half away.

A week or so after he left I called him to set plans for the pheasant hunt.

After several phone calls and Emails not answered or returned. I still waiting for my pheasant hunt 10 years later(not really).

I much prefer I pay you, you pay me or you pay me, I pay you.

If anybody in one of these deals says you go first I would run away as fast as possible.

You are about to get screwed.
 
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On your end, would put you out for from two weeks to the whole the season assisting with everything from splitting wood to packing out Mountain Goats. Ride the plane, drive the ocean boat, ride the river / jet boat, fish. Set up wall tents, move em, cape, etc
Angus, cool idea and I hope it works out....but I think you are looking to trade places with an African Tracker, not a PH!

sofa

Fantastic scenery.


Thanks Bill, no, no interest in playing PH get enough of that here. The lower and more menial the responsibility the better, wood, driving, skinning, all good. Just after a different colour of dirt on the hands and meeting new folks.

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I seen to many trade for work come out badly.

The 2nd guy usually losses. To many times I seen the 2nd guy never getting his share.

Prime ensample daughter is a good book keeper she makes a deal with a cabinet maker to redo her counter tops.

She does the books he never called her back to do the counter tops.

There are many horror stories like that out in the trading for work area.

Here is a hunt related one I revived a call from a friend who told me that a friend of his had a bear tag for the area I live in.

He was wondering if I could take him hunting. I said have him give me a call.

After several conversation he seemed like a ok person to take hunting. We set up an date and time.

During the conversations he promised to take me on a pheasant hunt at his sons farm in Nebraska.

He came up hunting on the third day he shot a nice bear.

He said we would go pheasant hunting around the first week of November a month and half away.

A week or so after he left I called him to set plans for the pheasant hunt.

After several phone calls and Emails not answered or returned. I still waiting for my pheasant hunt 10 years later(not really).

I much prefer I pay you, you pay me or you pay me, I pay you.

If anybody in one of these deals says you go first I would run away as fast as possible.

You are about to get screwed.


Different deal, there’s no $ value in either, just experiences and labour. Have done it once before and worked out very well, if I put them up first and a guy wanted to come over and bust his ass at my operation and I feed him... not really out anything am I if I don’t get my end of the deal in volunteering for him? Not out to shoot a thing as mentioned, just donate labour and enjoy the ride. Wink
 
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Sounds to me like a man that is bored and has too much time on his hands.
 
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Wouldn’t that be the life sharps, unfortunately 3 kids and 2 1/2 jobs puts me anything from bored and with time to spare. Rather just never stop moving and exploring, you live once, do as much as you can with it. beer
 
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On your end, would put you out for from two weeks to the whole the season assisting with everything from splitting wood to packing out Mountain Goats. Ride the plane, drive the ocean boat, ride the river / jet boat, fish. Set up wall tents, move em, cape, etc
Angus, cool idea and I hope it works out....but I think you are looking to trade places with an African Tracker, not a PH!

sofa

Fantastic scenery.


Thanks Bill, no, no interest in playing PH get enough of that here. The lower and more menial the responsibility the better, wood, driving, skinning, all good. Just after a different colour of dirt on the hands and meeting new folks.

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Originally posted by p dog shooter:
I seen to many trade for work come out badly.

The 2nd guy usually losses. To many times I seen the 2nd guy never getting his share.

Prime ensample daughter is a good book keeper she makes a deal with a cabinet maker to redo her counter tops.

She does the books he never called her back to do the counter tops.

There are many horror stories like that out in the trading for work area.

Here is a hunt related one I revived a call from a friend who told me that a friend of his had a bear tag for the area I live in.

He was wondering if I could take him hunting. I said have him give me a call.

After several conversation he seemed like a ok person to take hunting. We set up an date and time.

During the conversations he promised to take me on a pheasant hunt at his sons farm in Nebraska.

He came up hunting on the third day he shot a nice bear.

He said we would go pheasant hunting around the first week of November a month and half away.

A week or so after he left I called him to set plans for the pheasant hunt.

After several phone calls and Emails not answered or returned. I still waiting for my pheasant hunt 10 years later(not really).

I much prefer I pay you, you pay me or you pay me, I pay you.

If anybody in one of these deals says you go first I would run away as fast as possible.

You are about to get screwed.


Different deal, there’s no $ value in either, just experiences and labour. Have done it once before and worked out very well, if I put them up first and a guy wanted to come over and bust his ass at my operation and I feed him... not really out anything am I if I don’t get my end of the deal in volunteering for him? Not out to shoot a thing as mentioned, just donate labour and enjoy the ride. Wink


Sounds like a plan to lure in gullible idjits with more money than common sense. Roll Eyes

Look, it's easy. You agree up-front to the terms, conditions, and duration for a successful hunt. Then you pay by cash, check, or c.c. when the hunt is successfully concluded.

Anything else is a precursor to a rip-off of the hunter, which for me would trigger the need to exercise my rather pointy Texas-size 12 boots*** in a most awesome ass-kickin' manner.

Word to the wise ... Whistling

*** "Texas-size 12s" = size 15s for normal humans.


All The Best ...
 
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AJ, I have to ask, did you even read the post? Smiler You’re on another subject entirely it appears that I don’t recognize. Cheers guys.
 
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AJ, I have to ask, did you even read the post? Smiler You’re on another subject entirely it appears that I don’t recognize. Cheers guys.


Was referring to the substance of the issue that p dog shooter had commented on. Not you so much ...


All The Best ...
 
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Missed the context makes sense now. tu2
 
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watch out Angus not being caught with our immigration system for a foreigner coming here ...
 
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watch out Angus not being caught with our immigration system for a foreigner coming here ...


Yes, good point Phil. One needs to be careful as some government bureaucrats could see this as taking a job away from a Canadian. Same shit happens in US. I know as my wife and I got the thumbs down to going to the US to guide winter hunts in Texas. We thought it would be a great way to spend the winter, but apparently the US govt saw it differently.

I know guys who hire mountain guides from New Zealand, but they jump through the government hoops first to make it happen.


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