Guys, I heard yesterday from a gun dealer that the US state department had last week returned all applications( ie. next years guns) for export of firearms permits out of US to Canada. Apperantly Weatherbys got through before this but none of the others. Anyone heard anything on this?
If you have that much to fight for, then you should be fighting. The sentiment that modern day ordinary Canadians do not need firearms for protection is pleasant but unrealistic. To discourage responsible deserving Canadians from possessing firearms for lawful self-defence and other legitimate purposes is to risk sacrificing them at the altar of political correctness."
- Alberta Provincial Court Judge Demetrick
Posts: 615 | Location: Alberta | Registered: 17 November 2004
True, But lots made in czech republic, finland and elswhere.
If you have that much to fight for, then you should be fighting. The sentiment that modern day ordinary Canadians do not need firearms for protection is pleasant but unrealistic. To discourage responsible deserving Canadians from possessing firearms for lawful self-defence and other legitimate purposes is to risk sacrificing them at the altar of political correctness."
- Alberta Provincial Court Judge Demetrick
Posts: 615 | Location: Alberta | Registered: 17 November 2004
I tried to buy a reloading kit from Cabela's. All went thru on the internet purchase. Got a call a few days later saying 'sorry, we can't ship any weapons related item across the boarder'. Hopefully they'll get something figured out before our dollar takes a nose dive.
Posts: 35 | Location: Whitecourt, Alberta | Registered: 08 May 2006
Woodford, Cabelas has refused to ship anything gun related for years. I believe it was an internal policy that they did not want to bother with the paperwork. I suspect this may change with the opening of the montreal store.
If you have that much to fight for, then you should be fighting. The sentiment that modern day ordinary Canadians do not need firearms for protection is pleasant but unrealistic. To discourage responsible deserving Canadians from possessing firearms for lawful self-defence and other legitimate purposes is to risk sacrificing them at the altar of political correctness."
- Alberta Provincial Court Judge Demetrick
Posts: 615 | Location: Alberta | Registered: 17 November 2004
Maybe it has to do with the fact that Canada is ranting about how guns from America are causing all sorts of havoc north of the border-why, we are just accommodating your Gummint. Do you have a guaranteed right to keep and bear arms? Get one, then we can talk.
I suspect it has more to do with that aspect rather than the US afraid of terrorists using Canada as a waypoint to the US.
It's just another stupid law, that will hamper US companies from selling thier products to law abiding citizens in other countries, and do nothing to prevent terrorism.
Especialy those terrorists that are handloading for thier 375 H&H's...Can't get brass shipped wihtout an export permit either.
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Posts: 3082 | Location: Pemberton BC Canada | Registered: 08 March 2001
Andrew I don't think it's about the US "accomodating our government" the US rarely accomodates the gov't of other countries. It has to do with the overall fear of terrorism and the wish for "homeland security." I have to stress that this is an export law on the southern side of the border not an import law in Canada.
On the same note I'm really pised that I can't buy a Zeiss scope out of the States. They are 30% less. I'm more pissed that Bombardier products are 40% less and my tax money supported the F***ing company when they were just about tits up. I'm seething F**ing mad at that one.
Maybe it has to do with the fact that Canada is ranting about how guns from America are causing all sorts of havoc north of the border-why, we are just accommodating your Gummint. Do you have a guaranteed right to keep and bear arms? Get one, then we can talk.
I suspect it has more to do with that aspect rather than the US afraid of terrorists using Canada as a waypoint to the US.
There have been a number of theories about the origin of the US state department restrictions on firearms related exports. One had to do with the purported sale of M16's to Iran. Apparently it's OK for US goverment agencies to sell arms to foriegn powers but not Canadian ones. Another theory was that the restrictions were indeed passed as a favor to the Canadian government of the day. Yet another was that the US government wanted to test backdoor gun control techniques on other countries before employing them on their own citizens. It wouldn't take much to expand the GCA of '68 restrictions on interstate firearms sales to include ammunition and components. In the end there is little doubt all of the Homeland Security ( the US foray into fascism)initiatives are an insult to Canadians and to Americans living abroad. The world's longest undefended border is no longer. The country which claims to be the champion of free enterprise is plainly opposed to it and free trade. The US state department is doing all it can to alienate citizens of the country which has always stood in support of the US when the chip were down; even going so far as to put it's citizen's lives on the line on foreign soil. It is interesting that, with the restrictions on firearms related goods, the US government is targeting the Canadians who are traditionally most likely to be supportive of US policy. It's hard to understand why the US would want to (a) reduce grassroots support amongst Canadians and (b) limit opportunity for US businesses at a time when the US economy may be headed straight for the crapper. Regards, Bill
US doesn't give fack about few rifles sold in Canada. They have to send guns to Saudi Arabia, Izrael and so on. That is whewre the real money are. Sadly, I like US and spend there money whenever go south, however policies of George Bush are worse then those of Bill Clinton for ordinary Canadians.
Posts: 202 | Location: Bolton | Registered: 21 February 2004
Can anyone submit actual references to U.S. Gov't policies or laws (or Cdn Gov't), where they have facts written in black & white, or is this all just conjecture/rumor?
Posts: 828 | Location: Whitecourt, Alberta | Registered: 10 July 2006
I have not heard that rumour, but here is one for real. The Federal Gov. has passed a law , which will go into effect in December sometime, that all new gun's coming into Canada will have to have CA stamped on the barrel. The distributer's are having a fit.(cost) The gun manufacture's will not comply. The cost for someone to stamp the new gun's will end up costing me and you $250.00 to $300.00. There is a write up on this subject in the last COHA newsletter.
Posts: 224 | Location: ontario,canada | Registered: 14 July 2002
I am trying to purchase a S&W .17HMR here in the Rep Of Ireland and importers are beign restricted from Importineg S&W here. I myself am a long time customer of Cabelas, I am a bit peed off of their restrictions which I believe are internal so I will not be a customer much longer especially when other outfitters in the USA will gladly send items to us here in Ireland. Liam Slattery Deerhunter
The CA stamp is not a similar requirement as in the US where sporting firearms imported into the US must show a required US mark orUS importer? Why is this a requirement?
For example I believe that Mark X rifles had to be stamped as to origin and a US importer as in Interarms, Georgia? Again why?
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