seems i was right ahead of time ... so grand slammers will not be happy and some hunts here may become a bargain ....

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada...sheep-dall-1.4908206

Southern Yukon's population of Stone sheep is actually a population of Dall sheep, researchers say
Mike Rudyk · CBC News · Posted: Nov 16, 2018 1:41 PM CT | Last Updated: November 16
Stone sheep tend to be darker in colour than Dall sheep. Both are subspecies of Thinhorn sheep. ( BC MLFNRO and Environment Yukon)

Call it a case of mistaken identity.

Researchers have discovered that Yukon's small population of Stone sheep has been misidentified for years — the animals should in fact be classified as Dall sheep.

That means that the overall population of Stone sheep in Western Canada is about 20 per cent less than was previously thought.

Both Stone and Dall sheep are subspecies of Thinhorn sheep. Dall are commonly whiter in colour and Stone sheep tend to be a darker brown.

New rules for Yukon farmers aim to protect wild sheep from disease

Researchers from the University of Alberta used DNA markers to correctly identify about 2,800 animals in the Pelly and Cassiar mountains in southern Yukon, as Dall sheep.

"They have always been classified as Stone sheep. The previous classification is, as long as you have any kind of dark colourization, you are considered a Stone sheep," said Zijian Sim, a PhD student in the department of biological sciences at the University of Alberta.
'We only found one sheep in the Yukon that we would consider a Stone sheep. Only one, and before they thought there were thousands,' says researcher Zijian Sim. ( BC MLFNRO and Environment Yukon)

"But what our genetic evidence is finding is that these sheep, although coat-colourwise they might resemble Stone sheep to the south, they are more related genetically to Dall sheep in the north."

Stone sheep are only found in northern B.C. and Yukon, although Sim says that may need to be re-thought.

"Now we are finding it's even more restrictive — basically, only in B.C.," he says.

"There might be some Stone sheep at the tip of the southern Yukon, but in our entire study, and we studied 2,800 rams, we only found one sheep in the Yukon that we would consider a Stone sheep. Only one, and before they thought there were thousands."

Sim says the new research has prompted the B.C. and Yukon governments to talk about co-managing herds that straddle borders.
Stone sheep are found primarily in northern B.C. (Andrew Kurjata/CBC)

Wasn't aware there were 2800 stone rams in the Yukon.

Old news think that report was done 3 years ago .

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Originally posted by sjr:
Old news think that report was done 3 years ago .

yes i agree but there is still hunters paying for a stone when this is a dall ...

Hey , Kodiaks are really Grizzlies, just different geography. What's changed ?

Grizz

but nobody is trying to sell you a kodiak or a pen brwon bear where is it not ...

I thoiught that the Stonev Sheep had been classified as either a subspeciesor geographic variant of the Dall for decades.

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Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:
I thoiught that the Stonev Sheep had been classified as either a subspeciesor geographic variant of the Dall for decades.

they re but not in the Yukon ...as they re not dna different therefore dall only, not a problem unless you paid a dall for the price of a stone ....

Only bad news if the record keeping organizations follow this research and reclassify stone sheep. With the money involved I don't see that happening any time soon!

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Originally posted by sheephunterab:
Only bad news if the record keeping organizations follow this research and reclassify stone sheep. With the money involved I don't see that happening any time soon!

Agreed.

Grizz

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Originally posted by sheephunterab:
Only bad news if the record keeping organizations follow this research and reclassify stone sheep. With the money involved I don't see that happening any time soon!

That's not going to happen any time soon. Too much money and egos in the mix.

This is hardly the first animal where the record books and taxonomists don't agree. Some interesting research for sure but Grand Slammers can sleep well.

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Originally posted by sheephunterab:
This is hardly the first animal where the record books and taxonomists don't agree. Some interesting research for sure but Grand Slammers can sleep well.

i wish sometimes trophy hunters and record books were a little less about trophy ....

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Originally posted by medved:

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Originally posted by sheephunterab:
This is hardly the first animal where the record books and taxonomists don't agree. Some interesting research for sure but Grand Slammers can sleep well.

i wish sometimes trophy hunters and record books were a little less about trophy ....

Some of us don't give a Damn about that Shit and have a different perception of hunting.



Grizz

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Originally posted by Grizzly Adams:

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Originally posted by medved:

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Originally posted by sheephunterab:
This is hardly the first animal where the record books and taxonomists don't agree. Some interesting research for sure but Grand Slammers can sleep well.

i wish sometimes trophy hunters and record books were a little less about trophy ....

Some of us don't give a Damn about that Shit and have a different perception of hunting.



Grizz

i do not know about you. i know that i have some animals taken that should made the book according to the numbers but i will never register them as i prefer to take the oldest i can and i do not believe in those books but seems a lot are ,considering the people trying to get a slam ....

soon it will not be a problem at the fast pace anti hunters are growing even up here ...

Meh each to their own...I've never entered an animal in B&C and really don't care about finishing my slam but good on those that partake. I love the pics and stories! i hunt for my own reasons and couldn't care less what others think....I suspect most hunters are the same yet some feel the need to criticize