A BC court has apparently ruled American Natives can hunt in Canada. So much for any pretense of wildlife Management.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/...-in-canada-1.4468026

Grizz

Our First Nation People only hunt with the absolute highest ethical standards. Perhaps including them will raise the level of ethics in the field. Good luck.

I think that this will go to the Supreme Court of Canada, but, it is also a very "liberal" group and these foreigners may well get the decision that they wish.

I have already done two patrols in the afflicted area, which I know well from working there for the BCFS. I am also from one of the founding pioneer families of the area and we will NOT accept or tolerate this atrocity.

There is a reaction against all of this aboriginal BS building here and I think that serious conflicts could happen as the situation evolves.

"My ancestors were allowed to ______ so we should be the only ones allowed to in perpetuity."

What a crock of horseshit. History is full of invaders and invaded, get over it like every other native. Properly managed there's enough wildlife for everyone to have the privilege of hunting.

As I see it, you wanna watch wildlife and take photos then have at it.....no one is stopping you INCLUDING HUNTERS. In fact, I would argue that it's BECAUSE of hunters that you have anything left to photograph in some parts of the world. These liberals operate on emotion and nothing more.....they ignore facts/science because it's their enemy.

Rant over. I wish our neighbors to the north best of luck in seeing this travesty through to a rightful end.

Let's see- no seasons, no weapons restrictions, ok to shoot from road, ok to shoot from vehicle, ok to shoot from moving vehicle, ok to wanton waste, ok to shoot in National Parks. I think that covers the main issues here south of our common border. In the case of Montana, the staff at Montana Department of Fish, Wildlife and Parks are unwilling to address the issue. Should not shooting Big Horn Sheep from the road be worthy of some action? This special treatment of our First Nation People has destroyed them and no one wants to acknowledge that fact.

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Let's see- no seasons, no weapons restrictions, ok to shoot from road, ok to shoot from vehicle, ok to shoot from moving vehicle, ok to wanton waste, ok to shoot in National Parks. I think that covers the main issues here south of our common border. In the case of Montana, the staff at Montana Department of Fish, Wildlife and Parks are unwilling to address the issue. Should not shooting Big Horn Sheep from the road be worthy of some action? This special treatment of our First Nation People has destroyed them and no one wants to acknowledge that fact.

The above sums it all up as honestly and accurately as is humanly possible.

No but I would like to see someone from the politically correct government agencies grow a set and at least start the dialogue. Perhaps Secretary Zinke on American side, not sure who in Canada.

That issue will be with us until there is nothing left
The old saying I heard was “ I want it all and I want it now” being description of res Indians
Kinda sad as they are becoming total caricatures of their own kind

They get away with murder, too.

https://www.thespec.com/news-s...peter-kosid-in-2012/

Let me break it down in a way apparently the cops and forensics couldn’t. There was no deer. The guy was hit in the back 44” above the ground. How many deer are almost 4’ tall in the body?

Plus, Johnston was using a 30-06. In this area (urban, farming - not wilderness), “white” people can only use shotguns and muzzleloaders, and then only during 2 - 1 week special seasons.

This was no accident. It was murder, plain and simple.

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Our First Nation People only hunt with the absolute highest ethical standards. Perhaps including them will raise the level of ethics in the field. Good luck.

Where I live in Canada, they are amongst the most wasteful, law breaking people afield.

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Originally posted by crane:
Our First Nation People only hunt with the absolute highest ethical standards. Perhaps including them will raise the level of ethics in the field. Good luck.

Where I live in Canada, they are amongst the most wasteful, law breaking people afield.

That's has been by experience with a lot of them.

The idea of the noble savage is a myth.

Latest BS here is, 5 drunken armed Natives stage what amounts to a home invasion on a rural property. Home owner somehow manages to shoot and kill one of them. He was acquitted by a jury, but the Natives and their fellow travellers are screaming racial discrimination.According to the sucked in media, these 5 individuals "were out for a drive and ended upon Stanley's property" .

Griz

The only two times I ran into First Nations people in Chapleau Ontario while bear hunting I was not impressed. In Ontario when you’re done hunting for the day, your rifle must be unloaded and stored in a case while you’re waiting to be picked up by the guide. One of our hunters was robbed at gunpoint by a pickup full of drunk Indians. They took his gun, wallet and watch. So the rest of the trip we waited in the dark about 100 feet into the woodline and had a different code of headlights flashing every night. Our camp was close to the Indian Reservation and we would hear gunst at night, folloi by chainsaw. The Indians would spotlight moose, shoot them and then chainsaw them apart. That was the last time I bear hunted in Canada.

Read "Trafficking" by Tony Latham retired Idaho F&G Game warden

How did native Americans treat the tribes they vanquished? Seems there is a world movement to support people who make poor choices at the expense of the ones who work hard and make a better life.

Everyone go out and slaughter the healthy cattle so the poor ones can have more grazing...

I'll return for year 18 hunting the Rez this fall. Sucks so much I bought a house close by and average about 4 weeks a year there. I just wish more folks would read this thread and stop going.

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I'll return for year 18 hunting the Rez this fall. Sucks so much I bought a house close by and average about 4 weeks a year there. I just wish more folks would read this thread and stop going.

Never worked law enforcement on the on or around a RES have you.

Glad you are having fun.

Why no I have not. I am in a different profession. I may have spent more hours hunting on the RES than you have though. Just a few of the critters I was able to find after everything was all shot out.

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I may have spent more hours hunting on the RES than you have though

I highly don't think you spent more total time on a res.

So you spent a month a year for 18 years that is only 1.5 years total.

Living next to and working as LEO on one of the largest reservations in Wis. For over 30 years adds up to a lot of time.

Plus the time spent on the 3 smaller ones in my area.

They have some of the highest crime rates in the country along with very high drug and alcohol abuse rates.

Hope you keep enjoying it.

Now that I am retired I keep away from it's problems.

There are much better places to hunt around here.

That's just crazy. Open borders for natives to take whatever game whenever they want. Only Canada.
Have hunted CA several times and have enjoyed each one immensely. My experience w/ Canadians have all been very positive.
However, in my few travels thru there I've had the displeasure of seeing some of the conditions of the reservation housing.
If the natives treat their own homes that way what makes anyone think they'll treat the game any different? This goes for N AM natives and Canadian natives.

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That's just crazy. Open borders for natives to take whatever game whenever they want.

I think they should travel north to BC and shoot a bunch of moose and grizzlies.

Might start a inter tribal war really common in the old days tribes fighting over hunting ground.