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Looking at options for this year's travel to North America, I investigated Air Canada's policy of transporting firearms. Last year had brought a nasty surprise with surcharges applied to firearms as part of regularly checked luggage (as opposed to excess fees). In the end, and probably due to protetst (not least from the NRA?), the fees were only applied to domestic Canadian routes. So I was wondering what the state would be this year??

I picked the following off the Air Canada Website - sections bolded by me:

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Firearms and ammunition
A one-way handling fee of $50CAD/$43USD applies for firearms on domestic itineraries (Intra Canada), for tickets purchased on/after November 30, 2006.

Firearms

There is a fixed handling charge for the carriage of firearms anywhere Air Canada flies: $50 CAD ($43 USD) plus applicable taxes for one-way travel.
Canada to US and International itineraries booked prior to November 3rd, 2006 are exempt from the firearm handling fee.
Hunting rifles and shotguns are accepted as checked baggage only, and must be unloaded.
The firearm must be inhibited from being fired by using a secure, locking device mechanism on the weapon, called a "Trigger Lock".
The firearm must be packaged in a specially designed, non-see through case that cannot be easily broken into during transport.
Before Air Canada accepts the firearm you must sign a declaration form attesting that the gun is unloaded as well as a limited release form.
Restricted firearms such as handguns require government documentation for transport. Consult the Canadian Firearm Center and/or Canada Customs for complete details.
Ammunition

Ammunition is only accepted in checked baggage and must be packaged separately from the firearm.
Ammunition allowance is limited to 5 kg (11 LB) per passenger.
Only shells or cartridges are acceptable types of ammunition.
Gunpowder and gunpowder pellets are strictly prohibited.
Ammunition must be packed securely in a strong container of wood, metal or fiberboard, plainly marked 'ammunition', or in the original inner carton.
To avoid shock movement, the carton must be placed inside a suitcase and cushioned with clothing.


So what is it now, are the firearms transportation fees only charged for domestic (Intra-Canada) flights, or are they charged for all Air Canada flights??

And secondly, what is this deal about the trigger locks?? I have never heard of any airline requiring firearms be inside locked cases AND be secured with a trigger lock??

- mike


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As far as AC is concerned, I believe they have always required trigger locks. I have always used them when air tranporting firearms anyway.

I believe the policy for surcharge is still only for in-Canada flights, but I'm not positive. I haven't used AC for an international flight with firearms since the surcharge has been in effect.

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Thanks Canuck. I was unaware of the requirement for trigger locks , and I have never used (or owned) one. I don't recall seeing this requirement in the past, but naturally I could have overlooked it - although, I'm somewhat doubtful.

Pity AC charges you guys extra for travel with firearms. There are other (US and European) carriers who have started to do the same thing. IMHO, we should avoid these carriers, perhaps that might make them think again?
- mike


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I don't recall seeing this requirement in the past, but naturally I could have overlooked it - although, I'm somewhat doubtful.


I checked my research materials from 2002 (printout from the AC website)...the trigger locks were mentioned as one method of making the firearm inoperable...the trigger lock was not a requirement per se, but making the firearm inoperable was. Removing the bolt would also have been acceptable, but some airlines apparently don't like you carrying your bolt in another bag, and there is the risk of the bolt and rifle getting separated. That's why I went the trigger lock route. And its 'relatively' common to trigger lock your firearms during transport in Canada.

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IMHO, we should avoid these carriers, perhaps that might make them think again?


I agree...sadly, there aren't many options in Canada, and no other options from my hometown. Also, with international travel its nice to be able to check your bags all the way through to the final destination if possible. AC is part of star alliance, which helps in that respect.

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I throw a trigger lock on my gun when flying so the nervous people that check it think I am an extra safe/super qualified/upstanding citizen- which is of cours,e 100% accurate. Wink

I dont' fly AC unless i am using up points or I can't avoid it.


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Posts: 3082 | Location: Pemberton BC Canada | Registered: 08 March 2001Reply With Quote
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Canuck & Gatehouse, I know the feeling of adhereing to rules, just because it makes life easier, not because the rules make a lot of sense. I'm not about to throw a tantrum about RKBA, AC and their apparent attitude towards firearms. I am confronted with these issues too often here in Europe to be shocked. Over here, I simply avoid airports like Schipol in Amsterdam and Heathrow in London.

So I guess if I want to fly with AC, I'll buy and apply a triggerlock - mumbling through my gritted teeth, though... Frowner

- mike


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Canuck, does westjet not fly to Cranbrook yet??


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Nope.

Central Mountain Air subcontracts to Air Canada, to and from Calgary.

Air Canada Jazz and Pacific Coastal fly to and from Vancouver.

And thats it.

I use Pac Coastal as often as possible!

I hear the airport is wooing West Jet for some international recreational (skiing) charters...maybe could be that might spill over into regular commercial flights eventually.

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Posts: 7123 | Location: The Rock (southern V.I.) | Registered: 27 February 2001Reply With Quote
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"...not least from the NRA..." Air Canada doesn't care what the NRA says or does. Nor does the NRA care what happens in Canada.
"...what is this deal about the trigger locks..." Very likely a misinterpretation of the laws. However, it may also be a deterent to theft by the baggage monkeys. Seems to me AC requires a big red sticker that has the word 'Firearm' on it. Tells the baggage monkeys what to steal. And yes it does happen.


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I have only flown Westjet om Canada with a rifle and I think they wanted a trigger lock. I am flying AC fomr Ft Mc to Toronto July 2nd the day before I leave on British Airways for Joburg. I am leaving them 23 hours to get me my guns before I leave Toronto, I figured Ac was less likely to lose my bag on a direct flight than westjet would with two connections.

We have had luggage not arrive on time with both airlines, the bag delayed with Westjet was the rifle I flew back fomr Ontario with a few years ago.
 
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