I have a good friend who is to hunt with me in Alberta for mule deer this coming nov. he just got a DUI, his first violation of any type in his life. I am aware of the Canadian laws that will not just permit him to come into Canada. Obviously he will not have 5 Years in before we go to be cleared "rehabiliattion". I see something about temporary citizen papers. Anybody have any idea if he is toast or is there a way?

I know a lot of people get turned back at the border for DUI.

I belive there is a way cost extra money.

Could be a good chance he might not get it done this year.

I tell some youngsters that like to go across the border to fish and hunt a DUI is a good way to stop having that fun.

Drinking is more important then some other things to a lot of people.

I think if he contacts Canada Immigration he can pay a fee to get a temporary permit.

I've had a few friends that have been able to get across with DUI's, but it takes time, money and something like a "pardon". Better get going on this if you want to try hunt this fall. Was many years ago so things might have changed. Best bet is to call one of these.

From the state dept. website
Please Note: Anyone with a criminal record (including misdemeanors or alcohol-related driving offenses) may not be able to enter Canada without first obtaining a special waiver well in advance of any planned travel. To determine whether you may be inadmissible and how to overcome this finding, please refer to the Canadian citizenship and immigration website.

Here's the hyperlinkhttp://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/5312ETOC.asp#overview

Also could try this.
For further information on entry requirements, travelers may contact the Canadian Embassy at 501 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington DC 20001, tel. (202) 682-1740; or the Canadian consulates in Atlanta, Boston, Buffalo, Chicago, Dallas, Detroit, Los Angeles, Miami, Minneapolis, New York, San Juan or Seattle.

Just for the record it's that way for Canadians entering the States too. It's a bunch of twattle I think, if it happened in someones distant past it shouldn't be a concern now....but rules are rules.

Your outfitter should be able to give you contact info. for clearing border. Call canadian gun registery for latest details.

In 2010, my son and I drove from Kansas to Tok, Alaska, to do a fly in hunt. Four years previously, my son had a DUI, while in college. We new nothing of the law pertaining to crossing into Canada. when we got to the border, we both went through private interigations, then a combined interigation. At first I didn't think they were going to let my son pass through, but as he is now a high school teacher and coach, they decided that he did not pose a risk to the Canadian public. They issued him a temperary citizenship for 25 days, and a $200 fine. We were able to continue on after about 2 hours at the border. He has since applied for and sent in all the forms to the Canadian parliment, to get his record expunged. I think it is still going to cost him several hundred dollars to clear his record for crossing the border in the future. Knute

Works same way from going into USA from Canada...a DUI is a criminal charge and may not let you in. I knew a guy that was going too Vegas and his DUI was eons ago but it was on his record...wasnt allowed into the US.

Yet the USA welcomes illegal aliens with welfare, medical care, college tuition, and now the right to vote. Better to be illegal.

Unbelievable.....

Being a DUI offender and frequent visitor North of the border your friend may qualify for a temporary ministers permit which is around $200. He should bring with him a copy of his paperwork stating the charges, fines paid etc. Any DUI classes he has attended, letter from shrink if required to attend. A letter of reference from local law enforcement stating person has had no other contact with law enforcement is helpful plus a couple letters of reference attesting to character is also useful. As long as there was no accident or personal injury and he has had no other legal problems he should be okay. Also it takes 10 years to become rehabilitated per the regulations. I have been to Canada on 1o hunting trips and have never been turned back. Be honest at the border and have paperwork in order and don't drink booze on the flight in.

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Originally posted by Jack D Bold:
Yet the USA welcomes illegal aliens with welfare, medical care, college tuition, and now the right to vote. Better to be illegal.

Unbelievable.....

Yep! It's a damn joke!

I guess plan A would be to make damn sure you don't get one. Not sure how it is with you guys, but it falls under the Criminal Code here. Former BC premier got caught in Hawaii and it didn't seem to be a big deal on the American end. Was home in a couple of days.

Grizz

I talked with a friend of mine. Might want to try these people.

http://www.bordercrossing.ca/border/services.html

Grizz weren't you young once????

The advice I've always heard (never had one myself) is "Fight the DUI" spend all it takes and never make the mistake again. It's a big nasty blemish that take a long time to go away.

Don't use the Border Crossing company it is a scam and they can't do anything that you can't do when it comes to being at the border.

On the border crossing company..........my friend used them and it worked. Maybe things have changed.

One thing for sure is that i wouldn't wait until i get to the border (on the way to the hunt) to try get this straightened out !!!

I find it insane that they won't allow a Hab into the US for a DUI but there are folks still driving in MT with over 10 DUI convictions!!!!!

Laurel man sentenced for 14th DUI

http://billingsgazette.com/new...b9-217a4982e21a.html

Just to clarify there is no such thing as 'Temporary Citizenship'. You may be thinking of a TRV - temp resident visa. This is the visa that people from non visa-waiver countries must obtain to enter Canada (AKA tourist visa). Americans obviously don't need one but perhaps they issue these to Americans (and others) under special circumstances, such as the ones mentioned?

So, I have two sons (one getting out of the Rangers), another an A student in college. Both have a blemish (PI and DWAI) three years ago. Both are great sons whom I'm very proud of, each made a stupid mistake that when I was a kid would've resulted in a call to my folks and a beating but today results in a permanent blemish. I was planning on taking them both black bear hunting in BC next spring. How do I ensure they can get in before I book my hunt? If I can't, we'll hunt in the lower 48, Alaska or Africa.

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Originally posted by chuck375:
So, I have two sons (one getting out of the Rangers), another an A student in college. Both have a blemish (PI and DWAI) three years ago. Both are great sons whom I'm very proud of, each made a stupid mistake that when I was a kid would've resulted in a call to my folks and a beating but today results in a permanent blemish. I was planning on taking them both black bear hunting in BC next spring. How do I ensure they can get in before I book my hunt? If I can't, we'll hunt in the lower 48, Alaska or Africa.

Amen to that Chuck....the bar brawling and grabbing ass we did 25 years ago was good clean fun.....maybe someone got a black eye or some hurt feelings, but nothing more.....now they're felonies. Thanks for your son's service and good luck to all 3 of you wherever you end up hunting.

Interesting how people dismiss a DUI just because it was gotten by a relative. Reminds me of Jeff Dalmer's mom. He was such a "good boy".

I think he is toast as I understand the law in Canada. Jesus will let him slide of course, and really that is all that matters.

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Originally posted by SG Olds:
Interesting how people dismiss a DUI just because it was gotten by a relative. Reminds me of Jeff Dalmer's mom. He was such a "good boy".

I think he is toast as I understand the law in Canada. Jesus will let him slide of course, and really that is all that matters.

Norton thank you for your sentiments.


As for SG Olds, F*** You. Sound's like you've never had a life, and I'm glad of it. I've lived hard, killed for my country, drank, fought, boxed, slept with a lot of women until I got married and I'm glad of it. I've got no patience for you sanctimonius pricks.

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As for SG Olds, F*** You. Sound's like you've never had a life, and I'm glad of it. I've lived hard, killed for my country, drank, fought, boxed, slept with a lot of women until I got married and I'm glad of it. I've got no patience for you sanctimonius pricks.

Amen. Most of those sanctimonious pricks are also big time hypocrites as well. I'm not for DWIs but the blood-alcohol levels are ridiculously low and almost anyone can make a mistake.

I've been extremely fortunate not to have been killed, killed someone, or otherwise screwed up big time over a lifetime's course of alcohol consumption. A broken leg in Paris and a wounded tree are my most obvious drinking trophies. I also never got a DWI, but that was mostly a product of pure luck and the times (before MADD). Nowadays, I've got a couple of teenaged offspring who serve as designated drivers when I choose (often) to partake of a tall Sam. Adams or 3 at Buffalo Wild Wings, about 50 miles one way from home.

Not that it matters in this case, but an attorney friend of mine recommended if there was any doubt at all as to your sobriety to NEVER take a test, and the only thing out of your mouth should be "I want to speak to an attorney."

Friend of mine says bars in Saskatchewan are literally drying up, almost everyone goes and gets some alcohol to take home instead of drinking on sight and driving home.

Just to be on the other side of the DUI. I had a cousin run over by a drunk driver in the alley behind his house and left to die (which he did a few hours later still in the alley). I doubt my aunt and uncle would consider the driver's choice to drive drunk a bunch of "twattle." The driver is spending the rest of his life in a jail cell.

Suffice to say, I take a harsher stance towards DUI's after that incident in our family. A $60 cab ride is a lot cheaper in the long run.

I was a bit concerned when I applied for my passport recentley. Disorderley conduct from a birthday party at the house several years ago. I have no dui or dwi period.
It was a relief when it came in the mail though, I hard they were strict up there.
Okie

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Originally posted by Sevens:
Just to be on the other side of the DUI. I had a cousin run over by a drunk driver in the alley behind his house and left to die (which he did a few hours later still in the alley). I doubt my aunt and uncle would consider the driver's choice to drive drunk a bunch of "twattle." The driver is spending the rest of his life in a jail cell.

Suffice to say, I take a harsher stance towards DUI's after that incident in our family. A $60 cab ride is a lot cheaper in the long run.

My Finance in College was killed by a drunk driver (19 year old student) in a head on where he was in the wrong lane. I can't say I never deserved one myself but I have zero tolerance for anyone who drives drunk.

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Originally posted by OkieNewton:
I was a bit concerned when I applied for my passport recentley. Disorderley conduct from a birthday party at the house several years ago. I have no dui or dwi period.
It was a relief when it came in the mail though, I hard they were strict up there.
Okie

Your passport is issued by the U.S. government and I can't see why they'd deny you one. It is, however, no guarantee of access into any other country. If asked at the border if you have a criminal record and the answer is yes, your passport is no guarantee you'll get in. It just gurantees you are a U.S. citizen.