one of the guys at work here got himself a real monster of a goat in southern BC. The sad part is the fall broke off both horns and they couldn't find them. what was left was about a 2" but had 12 growth rings on the 2" the guy was so old that he didn't have any teeth left. estimate from the guides was that the horns would measure at least 10 3/4 and could go much longer. he didn't have a digital camera so no pictures, but what a trophy