This is a question for the Albertans in particular, anyone else can jump right in too!!

Has anyone ever done a hunting trade? I've looked into the regulations and it seems pretty straight forward. I'd be interested in hearing from someone who has been through the process. I'd also like to hear about the actual hunting that went on, it sounds like a great way to meet people.

I've talked to a few people here in AR about it but it always seems one side drops the ball....sometimes it's me, other times it's the other person.

thanks

the chef

Whaddayamean, chef?

You mean you taking somebody on a Hunter Host License, and they taking you out on whatever, wherever they have something to offer?

Grey area legally I guess, you can't receive reward for taking somebody out on a Hunter Host license... but if two guys just want to go hunting together in their respective countries/provincies... have at her!

Frans

LOL I thought Frans I'd hear from you on this one. Well I wouldn't mind hosting someone to come moose hunting with me this fall. I understand that "no money shall change hands and no gratuities are allowed" I'd be doing it out of the goodness of my heart...to showcase a true Canadian hunt. If somebody wanted to host me and showcase their hunting somewhere else in the world well I wouldn't mind that either. I'd probably do a buddy tag for the moose so 2 could hunt on one tag. Rather than getting a tag for someone who can't/won't take the meat home. Also it doesn't take a moose out of the population if it won't be totally used If they wanted tu use their WIN number and apply for bear at the same time I'd be ok with that also.

any thoughts?

the chef

Years ago I was involved with a group of friends where the trade thing worked very well. The people from BC would come to SE Alberta for Mule Deer and Antelope and return the favour for us with Black Bear and Mountain Goat.With other "friends" it didnt work out so well. One in particular whom I took out for 2 mules,2 antelope and a whitetail and has now dropped off the face of the planet.Depends on who you hook up with and who takes who first. Best of luck!

Hello;
It seems to me the other party has to be able to reciprocat and I don't think too many other jurisdictions let you do this.
Grizz

In B.C., due in large measure to the influence of the GOABC, the Wildlife Branch has very tightly restricted this practice. I cannot "accompany" a "non-resident alien" unless they are a very close relative and only Canadians can be assisted to hunt here in this fashion. Also, any game that is under the fucked-up L.E.H. system is off-limits, this includes most of the really desirable animals.

I found this out when I offered to do this with a fellow Canuck from out of province on CGN. After the "big boys" as they style themselves got finished slagging me for daring to propose something unusual, I was approached by a few good guys on that forum. I checked into it and found that the one guy from Churchill, MB. could NOT come Stone's Sheep hunting with me; this is one of the reasons why I am so opposed to foreign hunters having access to B.C. Sheep, etc.

I believe that I, as a native-born Canadian should be allowed to invite other Canadians to hunt Sheep or whatever with me any godam time I want to; IF, this diminishes the herds, then, Guide/Outfitter quotas should be reduced or eliminated, fuckem, Canadians come first!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by kutenay:
In B.C., due in large measure to the influence...

Kutenay, we need more fired up individuals such as yourself to get things straightened out with allocation systems in B.C. and Alberta. I find it total B.S. that Alberta will put any WMU on draw for Trophy Sheep when Non-resident aliens harvest 30 percent of the Sheep. Obviously if the sheep herd can't meet the demand of the local population the aliens (non-canadian) should be cut out.

We also have to suffer the effects of lost hunting opportunities on private land as outfitters lock up large ranches that the general resident population does not get access. To top it off some of these outfitters get allocations for public land (tags which should have went to residents) while at the same time preventing residents from accessing private land they have locked up.

Montana limits non-resident tags to 10 percent of the total, in Alberta it ranges in the top trophy WMUs' from 15 to 23 percent, some WMU's it takes a resident 10 years to obtain a tag but an alien can purchase the tag year after year. In B.C. thinhorn sheep LEH allocations to guides is what 52 percent and a non-resident Canadian can not go hunting with you, what a joke.

I've hunted Alberta about 10 times, all with friends/buddies on a hunter-host license.

My opportunity in Alberta is that I have at least 4 or 5 draw points accumulated for all species (Elk, mule deer, Pronghorn, moose) and I need to find a fellow Albertan with about the same number of points to put in for the draw with me. In fact, I can be hosted by another person, it is just that I need to put in for the draw with someone that has a similar number of points. We'd also have to agree on the WMU to hunt. Aside from that, any opportunity to hunt in non-draw WMUs is nice to have.

In B.C., I have a couple of honey holes (where friends have been on guided hunts) that I'd love to gain access to. I'd be most interested in Goat, elk, moose, black bear - in that order. Combo hunts are nice too! I'd also not turn dowm any Mulie or WT hunt. Overall, any opportunity to hunt B.C. with a new-found friend would be a fantastic experience and I'd be very grateful.

I'd be happy to have the right 'buddy' from B.C. or Alberta come have a fun hunt with me here in Quebec for Quebec-Labrador Caribou, combined with Ptarmigan (grouse-like birds). I can legally act as a guide in one zone. That zone has a limit of two Caribou per licence for non-residents. Those that may be interested can P.M. me. We can discuss details offline...

Cheers,
CL

Goats are LEH in many of the best areas, so, that is not possible and Moose are also going that way, due to the slaughter by "First Nations"....

Elk are doable, BUT, the problem is access to the Muskwa-Kechika area, the best place to whack an Elk. The "transporters" cannot, as I understand the law, take you into an area and the Guide/Outfitters charge Canadians the same HIGH fees as they do Americans or anyone else....one of the reasons why I am so po'ed by the current situation. There may be exceptions to this that I am not currently aware of, but, getting into the "honey-holes" that your friends scored in on guided hunts is not as easy as it seems.

If, I were you and really wanted a Goat, I would be inclined to find out what outfitters might have a lower-cost, end of the season hunt and go with that. Black Bear are no problem to get an "accompanied" hunt on, but, Grizzly are LEH and thus off-limits.

You might try calling Guy Scott at ...riverjetadventures...and see if he knows anyone who might be willing to take you as an "accompanied" hunter AND if he can transport you...also track down Gatehouse on CGN or wherever and ask him as he has gone with Guy. My partner and I will probably go with Guy this coming season and I do recommend him if you can work out the legalities.

Re: Guy Scott

He knows what he is doing, and he will transport you to an area that you want. Tell him what you want to chase, and he will drop you off in the right area (moose/elk /sheep etc)

But don't expect him to hold your hand. He will take you htere, give yousome pointers, but it is up to you.

As Guy said to me "sitting in camp does not Git 'R' Done!!

I'd use Guy Scott again, even though our hunt sucked due to an injury 2 days up on a mountain!