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Just got back from my Alberta antelope hunt. I left Saturday Oct. 18, so I could get in a couple of days of scouting prior to the hunt. I went to the Sage Creek Grazing Reserve as someone had recommended; it's a great spot, with a lot of antelope. BUT there was an amazing number of hunters there! I cannot recommend it for that reason, although the antelope are there.

So I picked out a desolate gravel road and spent the weekend glassing a valley that I could see to the north; just a few miles from the USA border. I was able to watch a small herd of antelope off and on Saturday and Sunday. Pickup trucks were circling all the roads and kept driving in past me.

I don't think that is too cool but it is a free country.

I camped in my truck, just tipped the seat back and made the best of it. A couple of cold nights, but at least I knew where I intended to hunt Monday.

Well I woke up Monday morning, Oct. 20 a truckload of hunters had driven by me before dawn and were heading into the same country I was aiming to go. Fortunately, they went more to the west end of the valley I was targeting.
But I got a bit flustered by their presence and headed out without remembering my backpack or range finder. Doh!

So I worked my way out to the hill over looking this big valley... it's like 1,200 to 1,500 yards across. After a short bit of glassing I picked up a herd of antelope across the valley, feeding. I could see there was at least one decent buck. I circled around the hill to avoid being sky-lined and worked my way down a draw, into the valley. There is a dry creek that meanders through this valley and I carefully moved down until I got into it. Then I was totally hidden from the antelope.
I followed the creek to the point closest to the herd and then began to crawl on all-fours towards them, through the sage and scrub brush. I crawled through about 300 yards of that stuff, avoiding the cactus as best as I could.

Finally I got to a position where the antelope seemd like they might have spotted me and I had no more cover left anyway. I figured it was something like 400+ yards but dammit, I didn't have the range finder (TBart)!
So I held high on the shoulder of the buck and fired and the bullet went right under him. He trotted forward just a few strides and stopped; the antelope were trying to figure out where the noise had come from.
I held above his back and this time too much! My shot went right over him, thank God I missed cleanly...

Well then the herd moved out and went up over the hill. I figured I might as well give it a shot and followed them, and the contour of the hill on the top of the valley was perfect to allow me to come up on them again, and they had joined up with another herd to form a much bigger group of animals. Now there were a bunch of good bucks, a half a dozen anyway and they were closer. I got the bipod down and took a good aim on the biggest buck but shot under him again! What the hell was the yardage!?

I was pretty distressed at my poor shooting and especially not knowing the distance! I am certain, in hind sight that in both situations those antelope were further then I thought as I took my aim. Just lucky that I missed cleanly each time.
The antelope raced off over the hill and went up on a big flat plain, where it was impossible to approach them again. So dejected, I walked out to the truck.

I spent a few hours driving around and talking with any other hunters I met, saw a few antelope from the road. I figured there was no better place then the valley I had been watching so I headed back there for the afternoon.

As I drove in to where I intended to park, dammit it if 3 does with a really good buck were not going out across in front of me, headed right for the valley I was going back into! The buck was still on the other side of a barbwire fence and antelope will only go under a fence, they will not jump it. So the buck was frantically looking for a place to cross and he ended up racing down the fence line away from me, as he searched for a place to get under the fence.

I knew once he did, that he was going to follow those does, so I quickly grabbed my gear, forgot my camo and backpack again, but got the range finder.

I got down onto the hillside overlooking the valley; pretty much the same place where I had started the day. I could not see any of those 4 antelope, but after about 5 minutes on the skyline, right where the herd had gone over in the morning I saw antelope coming toward me. I glassed them and it was a herd of 6 does. But this gave me confidence that the other group of antelope from the morning might also return to the valley.
Sure enough, after another 5-10 minutes I saw antelope skylined on the top of the valley (with my naked eye). They were easily 1,500 yards away then, but I knew right away they were also going to come down into the valley. I glassed them and saw it was the bunch with all the bucks...

So I got down into the dry creek as quickly as I could, while I was still out of their eyesight. I quickly worked my way down to get to the closest point of the creek, where they might come out. In damn near the same place as the morning stalk!

The antelope started streaming down into the valley, coming right for me and they stopped at a ranged 590 yards. At this point things coulda gone bad, a group of does peeled off and started heading west down the valley, but the main group, with all the bucks, did not follow them. After a few minutes they began trotting right for my position!

I glassed them and knew which buck I wanted...

I had the bipod legs fully extended and the scope on 7x. I kept expecting the antelope to stop somewhere out in front of me, maybe 100 or 200 yards. But they just kept up a steady trot, right at me. So I was in an awkward position, on my knees, with the bipod fully extended and trying to shoot off it, but they came in so close I could not use it!
Also they were going by on my right side, so as a right-handed shot that was also awkward, turning to my right.
I rose up on my knees as they went by at 40 yards. I was on the buck I wanted and said sharply, "Hey!" at the buck, which didn't slow him down.
So fired with him still trotting, which an antelope came move pretty quickly at their gait, even when trotting!

I caught him through the guts, my bad, which I attribute to him moving. At the time I thought I had hit him in the lungs, of course. He dropped anyway and the rest of the herd bolted and headed off to the west, so I had my antelope... or so I thought.

I walked up to him and he was lying flat on his side and looked as dead as a door nail, but just as I got to him he jumped up and raced away! But he could not travel, with his gut-wound and stopped at 100 yards. Thank God! So then I dropped him for good with an off-hand shot through the neck (which also broke his left shoulder).



Hunting in the shadow of the Cypress Hills.


This is the valley and the draw that I slipped into it through. You can see the dry creek bed in the middle of it. That valley is wide! 1,200-1,500 yards across!


What? No camo?


My buck has horns just under 15" but heavy mass pushed his green score to 77-2/8". Book is 80" so he is a good pronghorn, even if his horns are not very long.
Alberta Fish & Wildlife had a check-in station at Manyberries and they were taking tooth samples for aging, plus doing the Boone & Crockett scoring; so that's who scored the buck.
It was the biggest buck they had checked on Monday.



Using the golf cart to haul him out. Everybody should have one of these things!
 
Posts: 828 | Location: Whitecourt, Alberta | Registered: 10 July 2006Reply With Quote
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I am curious, what are the restrictions on other Canadians hunting antelope in Alberta? Am I correct in thinking that they are a species reserved for AB res. hunters and outfitters only, or, are there provisions for other Canucks to hunt them?
 
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http://www.mywildalberta.com/documents/2008draws

Dewey check this web site out, page 51 shows what draws a non resident can apply for. Yes antelope is available, you have to build your priority and have a guide or hunter host. Most good zones take a few years to get drawn in.
 
Posts: 99 | Location: SW Alberta, up against the rocks | Registered: 01 November 2005Reply With Quote
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Nice story and congratulations. As I am in Med Hat I wish we could have talked prior to your hunt. On the other hand you made out OK. Your first photograph is actually the Sweetgrass Hills in Montana. The Cypress Hills are north of where you were.
 
Posts: 200 | Location: alberta canada | Registered: 16 February 2005Reply With Quote
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^ Well I'll be... I guess you learn something now and then. That was my second antelope hunt to that area. The first was about 16 years ago and 16 years ago I was also sure that those were the Cypress Hills.

Thanks for correcting me! Smiler
 
Posts: 828 | Location: Whitecourt, Alberta | Registered: 10 July 2006Reply With Quote
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I've driven through that area several times, going to and coming back from antelope hunting in MT, and noticed how much flatter it was than where I hunted, and how many more cactus there was (found out the hard way, when taking some pictures). I'm slowly building up for the priority... I think I'm almost there!

Congratulations on a nice antelope!

Frans
 
Posts: 1717 | Location: Alberta, Canada | Registered: 17 March 2003Reply With Quote
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Thanks muchly, but,that link will not open for me, I just get that weird white page that indicates an inaccessible page.

So, am I correct in assuming that I and any other Canadian must apply for permits for an Antelope and compete with foreign hunters? Is there any preference shown to Canadian citizens in this drawing, as with BC licences, or is it based simply on "first come-first served" for anyone?

If, I hired a GO, would I then be guaranteed a tag as part of some "quota" said operator might have, or, does one handle obtaining the permit oneself and THEN seek out a guide or go with an Albertan?

I would like to try hunting one of these little buggers and have a P-64 Mod. 70 "Westerner" in .264WM that is in a Micky stock, wears a Zeiss Conquest 4.5x14 and is a drill with 140NPs. I never use this rifle and would l,ove to try it on a "speedgoat" in "Wild Rose Country".

Man, the various regs., quotas and restrictions on we Canuck hunters in our counrry is enough to drive a simple hunter totally whacko......be much like most politicos, then, eh? Smiler

Can anyone post the correct phone number for Alberta Wildlife and I will just call them and get the newestg regs. Thanks.
 
Posts: 2366 | Location: "Land OF Shining Mountains"- British Columbia, Canada | Registered: 20 August 2006Reply With Quote
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I believe any Non-Resident Canadian is able to get an Alberta WIN (wildlife identification number) Card and then is eligible to enter draws for various species; not sure if all species are eligible.

I have a brother that lives down east and he applies for the antlered moose draws here. If he gets drawn I am not sure how that works, I may have to be the hunter host.


You can also check www.gov.ab.ca and search through the hunting regs.
 
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Posts: 3785 | Location: B.C. Canada | Registered: 08 November 2005Reply With Quote
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According to the regs, A non resident can apply for a Trophy Antelope licence only.

"Note: A non-resident (Canadian) must apply with a resident (maximum of 1 non-resident per resident)."

Also Draw statistics for 2007 were 718 licences availble, 18420 Applicants, 7% chance of draw "These percentages are not directly calculated from the figures in the other two columns because some WMUs are oversubscribed and others are undersubscribed."


If you have that much to fight for, then you should be fighting. The sentiment that modern day ordinary Canadians do not need firearms for protection is pleasant but unrealistic. To discourage responsible deserving Canadians from possessing firearms for lawful self-defence and other legitimate purposes is to risk sacrificing them at the altar of political correctness."

- Alberta Provincial Court Judge Demetrick

 
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Originally posted by Dewey:
Thanks muchly, but,that link will not open for me, I just get that weird white page that indicates an inaccessible page.

So, am I correct in assuming that I and any other Canadian must apply for permits for an Antelope and compete with foreign hunters? Is there any preference shown to Canadian citizens in this drawing, as with BC licences, or is it based simply on "first come-first served" for anyone?

If, I hired a GO, would I then be guaranteed a tag as part of some "quota" said operator might have, or, does one handle obtaining the permit oneself and THEN seek out a guide or go with an Albertan?

I would like to try hunting one of these little buggers and have a P-64 Mod. 70 "Westerner" in .264WM that is in a Micky stock, wears a Zeiss Conquest 4.5x14 and is a drill with 140NPs. I never use this rifle and would l,ove to try it on a "speedgoat" in "Wild Rose Country".

Man, the various regs., quotas and restrictions on we Canuck hunters in our counrry is enough to drive a simple hunter totally whacko......be much like most politicos, then, eh? Smiler

Can anyone post the correct phone number for Alberta Wildlife and I will just call them and get the newestg regs. Thanks.


Only Alberta residents and NR Canadians can apply for antelope tags and the NR Canadian must apply with a resident. If successful in the draw, the NR Canadian must then hunt with an Alberta resident that buys the appropriate Hunter Host licence. The can be no compensation for acting as a Hunter Host.

NR Aliens do not need to draw a tag and may not participate in the draw process but rather must hunt with a licenced outfitter that has tags. As a NR Canadian you could also go through an outfitter and be guaranteed a tag.
 
Posts: 1857 | Location: Alberta, Canada | Registered: 27 February 2008Reply With Quote
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Glad to see someone got one. I was to picky the first AM and then a pr@#K in a pickup on the road honked his horn when we were close to shooting and spooked a herd! Nice guys.
 
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