I am probably going to end up back in Alaska after I retire. But I am thinking about moving to the Yukon if I can make it work.

What do you think?

Well, there are a few potential problems to consider with this idea. The first is that you may/may not qualify for landed immigrant status here in Canada and that is the first hurdle.

The second problem is our gun laws, which are not going to get any less onerous and your XP-100, for example, is restricted to target ranges only here....and these laws are enforced, even in the Yukon. So, you might find that to be a difficult sacrifice to make.

The next problem is that Canadian culture is VERY different from the U.S.A. and I have found that most of the great many Americans I have known who immigrate here find it quite difficult to adjust, something to consider although the Y.T. would be less demanding in this respect than southern Canada.

There is a growing separation/emnity between the U.S.A. and Canada, this is unfortunate, but, I expect that it will continue and even increase. So, this may also be a point for consideration; these are not intended to dissuade you, but, as serious (and hopefully helpful) comments on your question.

I lived on the Canadian border, and the culture differences I never got.

There are small things, like the acceptance of prostituition in Canada, and drug use being more common, but what are you talking about as differences?

I think your on the right track about our seperation. Your news propaganda isn't doing anything to help.

Not sure what you meant about prostitution and drug use ... I wouldn't live in Eastern Canada if given my druthers ... but probably could enjoy Montana or Idaho .. I'm sure that you would love the Yukon, maybe Northern B.C, if you don't mind the cold and want to experience the scenery and the magnificient hunting and fishing etc.. Being from Alaska you would fit in I would guess .. and there are a lot fewer people in the Yukon to fill up the spaces ..

I've lived just north of the border for all but 10years of my life. I don't see BIG culture differences between rural Canadians and Americans, particularly out west. Lots of small differences....I guess they might be big to some, depending on how important they are to you. My friends from the US probably wouldn't have any trouble with it, and a few of my friend's American born wives (a common hockey phenomenon!) haven't had trouble coping with the culture change. I also know at least a dozen American-born Canadians that seem to prefer it up here. I'd say its very specific to the individual.

The Yukon is a great place to live. Most of my family lives is Whitehorse, so I get the best of both worlds.

If you can work out the immigration details, and the issue with our gun laws (particularly handguns) isn't a big deal with you, then you should definitely consider it. You won't find better fishing on the planet, and you could be hunting as a resident within a few years.

Cheers,
Chris

Chris Please tell me about the Ram in the picture!

Chris, I think your right. Westerners are the same weather they are from Canada or the US. Of course that excludes all of Hawaii, and parts of California.

I know a lot of Wyoming and Montana outfitters moved to the Yukon in the 1960s and made a go of it.

The Yukon is one of the last good places.

D99,
Why here ? All the game is shot and there are no fish in any of the lakes, and to top it off there are people everywhere. 1/x

Alfonz

Uprooting oneself is not an easy thing.I never did it but what we do and what we dream are two different things.

A freind of mine told me he was thinking of moveing to the Yukon just a few weeks ago.He is not a hunter but a seakayaker.We once did a month long backpacking/canoe trip together in the Yukon.He said he was thinking of living with a native girl he met there not long ago.I don't think something like this would work out for him.He belonged to a family of seven bros. and lives his life very close to his family.I could not imagine him living away from them.It seems that he has to have that daily family contact more than anyone I know.

Having uprooted myself more than once (as you can see by my locale below), I have to say that the Yukon sounds like a great place to me. I hunted there two years ago and am heading up again in Janaury. Got my eye on a place as well...maybe for an early retirement!

Best,

John

I know one thing,if I ever take the chance and change everything I would choose a warm climate.As I get older to be able to take a walk in the sunshine and not freeze my brain out is becoming a big priority.Just that little thing is becoming priceless.Then there is the other problem of not being able to stay in one place.That is why I would rather take a vacation and rent a hotel romm than buy a place some place.I don't want to be stuck some place.Of course if you got tons of money these things are not a problem.

Never been to the Yukon, but have moved 18 times due to being in the energy business.
The best place so far has been wherever you find like-minded people. My wife is an Air Force brat and has moved a bunch as well - same goes for her.

If I were picking a spot, I would chose the south, to avoid the colder weather. I like the "Redneck Riviera" along the beaches of South and North Carolina. Lots of golf, lots of hunting and fishing, low cost of living. Second pick would be somewhere along the Texas Gulf Coast between Katy, TX and Corpus Christi. Great weather and lots to do.

You can always go to the Yukon in the summer and rent something.

Good luck on the decision.

I think the Yukon would be great! I live right across the border from them here in Alaska. I love going to the Yukon, whether it is going to Beaver Creek to play softball or to Whitehorse to visit. It is a beautiful piece of land. I think the people in the Yukon are a lot more friendly than the U.S. In all the evenings spent over there playing softball and drinking beer, I never saw a fight among the Canadians. They are always happy. Now if that was here, there would be drunken brawls. I am not sure I could handle the socialism and taxes, but it sure is a neat country and I see more animals there than I do here in Alaska!

Never been to the Yukon, but sure do like the folks I've met from there.

As a business owner I'd stay clear of Canada because of the tax situation, otherwise Canadians from those parts have always suited me just fine.

Politically speaking - oops, I won't go there in this thread and spoil the stew.

JW

After living in Canada for over fifty years, from early childhood to middle-aged, INCLUDING 35 years in the far North, allow me to say something short and not very sweet.

ANYONE who values his personal freedoms and most particularly his RIGHT to gun ownership, who contemplates relocating from the USA to Canada, is MANY rounds short of a full magazine.

No question, the country is beautiful and the people are great. However, a succession of idiotic socialist governments are driving the country into the dirt, and the best thing to do is just stay the hell AWAY. I moved my family from Canada to Nevada in '97, and it's the best thing I've done in my entire life. Every single day, seriously, I give thanks that I was able to make that move.

Trust me on this, gents: the grass on the other side of the Canadian border IS NOT GREENER!!!
My latest visit there was just two weeks ago, and I encountered nothing to change my mind.

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Regards from BruceB (aka Bren Mk1)

So you woould be BBruce? Just a joke.

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Originally posted by Bren Mk1:

ANYONE who values his personal freedoms and most particularly his RIGHT to gun ownership, who contemplates relocating from the USA to Canada, is MANY rounds short of a full magazine.

CLASSIC!

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However, a succession of idiotic socialist governments are driving the country into the dirt, and the best thing to do is just stay the hell AWAY.

If the non-liberal provinces would succeed, they would be welcome to join us.

Thanks Bruce,

i had thought that the gun control BS probably reached to the northern limits as well.

I think that most individual freedoms are more respected here in Canada, especially in remote areas than anywhere else, but, I do think that the current gun control laws are certainly bullshit. Yet, I have traveled all over western Canada with various guns and usually forget to take my reg. cards with me; I have never had a problem.

Our real problem is foolish immigration policies and the hideous treachery of "multiculturalism" in addition to the "Separatist" and Aboriginal troublemakers. Obviously, I am biased, but, I would never want to live anywhere else, except maybe New Zealand or Australia as I prefer the British style of government to anything else and the hunting here is so superior to the USA that comparison is not possible.

We have problems, but, Canada is the most successful democracy on Earth and life here is very good and opportunities are there, for anyone who wants them. As to "socialism", that is a phoney attitude held by people who do not know this country; I suggest that the USA has far more government interference and subsidies to business than Canada has.....and many more restrictive gun laws as well.

But, WTF, the fewer people here, the better, IMO.

The United States has extremes in gun laws. Nevada, Wyoming, and others have fantastic gun laws. Certain places in California, and all of the North East suck, as well as most major cities.

I am probably going to end up in Fairbanks or Anchorage. I do agree that you have serious problems with non-nationalism and racial bullshit, but it's no different than America, just different groups of people.

That is very true and the sad thing is that much of this is due to deliberate government policy; there is relatively little "Klan" style racism here, but, the huge, recent influx of non-traditional immigrants has provided fertile ground for getting "bloc" votes by the "multi-cult" lie. Of course, much the same thing is going on in the USA and the same problems arise, but, are more difficult due to vastly increased population pressures.

I think that, if you had known Vancouver, B.C. circa 1960 and Seattle, WA. at that time and then spent a month living in each city now, you would immediately see exactly what I mean by the major differences in "culture". This has NOT been a positive experience here, in the main, but the "multiculters" are winning, so far, and they are the "gunbanners" as well.

In your place, I would move to Alaska, no question, and then you can pop over to the "Yuk" for a beer whenever you want to and very welcome, too, as our Limey friends say. My wife and I will move to extreme northern B.C. or the Y.T. in a few years to escape the madhouse down here, I can't wait. I certainly wish we had Wyoming style gun laws in at least the rural parts of Canada, but, our corporate-fascist government, regardless of party label, will never go for that.

Atlin, B.C. is maybe one spot or Toad River, Fireside, Lower Post or Watson Lake, all in God's Country! I wish I was there now.

Racial bullshit comes from both sides, I wasn't talking about Nazis and Redneck Klansmen, I was talking about the whites getting either bred out, legalized out, or ran out.

Kind of like Vancouvers laws on only hiring those that speak Chinese.

I certainly have concerns about this, but, mostly of a cultural/political nature as the racial issue is not as destructive to Canadian culture as the insistence by newcomers that their "cultures" take precedence and the support for this by our traitors in government.

I favour harsh restrictions on immigration to Canada, the sooner the better, for exactly the reasons that you mention, but, the brainwashed younger people in Canada consider this to be "racist" as the "education" system has succeeded in this as it has failed in almost everything else. Typical of public education and why I tend to favour private schools.

I do not know of any legislation that prevents hiring of those that do not speak Chinese here in Vancouver; the discrimination against white Canadians is done by different methods and I have been a victim of it. In any event, I am being "run out", so, maybe we will meet in the Yukon!!!

I lived in Oak Harbor, WA for 7 years. I have spent many a Friday night in Vancouver and it's not so nice a place come sundown.

I bet it was wonderful in the 1960s and 1970s.

Strip clubs are everywhere, good or bad, we used to go to a hocky game then spend the rest of the night looking at strippers. I think we hit 30 clubs in the Vancouver area and never hit the same one twice.

When I retire, it will be to someplace good. If there is anyplace like that left.

The good thing about Canada is there is lots of empty space. The country is far wilder than anywhere I have ever been in Africa.

The bad thing is it really isn't a democracy. Its a monarchy. The Members of Parliament are elected but the Senate which is over them, is 100% appointed, and can veto any legislation the MPs make.

The only free press is Canada are the newspapers. Anyone can register and start up his own newspaper. But radio and TV stations have to be approved and these arguments the CRTC makes about "Canadian content" just hide the fact the licences are allocated to allies of the party in power at the time. And corruption eneters into it.

The father of Paul Martin the former Prime Minister, is allegedly to have done nothing but takes bribes and kickbacks in return for TV licences, when he was a Minister in the Canadian government.

The Canadian upper class is essentially a collection of organized crime figures.



VBR,


Ted Gorsline