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Is there any handgun hunting allowed in Canada? My BIL has gone bear hunting in Canada several times and wants me to go along. I refuse to go if I cant use my T/C Encore in 454 Casull (12" barrel). I dont own a rifle and wont borrow one to go. I am a handgun hunter, pure and simple. My understanding is "NO" its not allowed. PLeasew enlighten me properly!! Thanks!! Paul NRA Life Member IHMSA Member | ||
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The answer is No. What more information do you need? It's a shame but that's the way it is. | |||
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Looks like you're staying home. Seriously, handguns are an extremely restricted firearm here. | |||
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Thanks guys. I was right...nothing has changed. Yep sux to not be able to partake. Paul NRA Life Member IHMSA Member | |||
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I can't understand why the Canadian residents stand for this bullshit. There are many reasons why it would make good economical sense to allow handgun hunting there and damned few reasons not to allow it. I am also primarily a handgun hunter and feel left out of some great hunting opportunities. Is there a way to change the laws there and get some kind of regulated handgun hunting going. | |||
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I don't personally know of anyone around that has given this much thought. We have always used rifles and I don't see the point to changing something that works. | |||
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I don't have much interest in hunting with handguns but it sure would be nice to be able to take one in the bush when hunting or just camping. | |||
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A narrow-minded opinion such as this will keep hunters at odds with each other instead of uniting them against those who would do away with hunting altogether. I dont hunt with rifles....but I dont begrudge those who do....I dont hunt with a bow...but I dont hinder those that do. A choice of weapon should be allowed as it does many good things for hunting. Opens the door to more opportunites to be afield and a chance to introduce new people to hunting who may not otherwise try it. Sure rifle hunting works....so does handgun and bow hunting!!!!! Are you threatened that others may "invade" your hunting area if other forms of weapons were allowed??? We need to change because if we dont hunting will suffer. Numbers are dwindling in lots of areas already due to hunters getting older and not enough new hunters to take their place. I am sorry you feel that way about handgun hunting. Paul NRA Life Member IHMSA Member | |||
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I do a lot of handgun shooting and would love to be able to hunt legally with a handgun. I think it would be so much easier to carry through thick bush especially after a wounded animal. | |||
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Just think of the economic benefit to smaller communities throughout all of the Canadian Provinces that could be harnessed by giving millions of handgunners the opportunity to hunt there. Because much of the hunting would be guided anyway, you already have the things in place to regulate who comes there and uses handguns so very little new regulation would be needed to make this a profitable venture for the Canadian population. There are not just a lot of sportsman who hunt with handguns alone but there are many who hunt with all manner of weapons and may be interested in taking a Moose with their Smith 629 or whatever. The ones coming there to hunt with a handgun are hardly looking to go into the local bank for a hold-up. Is there really any reason not to allow handgun use for hunting there? I can't think of a single one. | |||
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welcome to the communist republic of canada. as soon as my paper woork is complete im moving my ass to the usa asap. | |||
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I didn't say anything about being against hunting with a handgun. I just don't care enough about it to do anything. Anybody who wants to hunt with a handgun can write as many letters or do whatever they think will help their cause and it won't bother me. I am not worried about other hunters invading my hunting area because it is public area and anyone can go there. If I was worried about that I would hunt on private property. | |||
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I really don't see why handguns aren't permitted during the shotgun/muzzleloader season or in the nearby hunting areas (right outside the city) where only shotgun/muzzleloaders are permitted. It makes sense due to the range restrictions and opens the sport up to a new group of sportsmen. It's not like there's thousands of potential handgun hunters up here, based on the regulated sales of handguns and the membership of the local ranges, it would be more like a few hundred at most. And during season, when carrying a tag for big game, the transportation restrictions should be lifted. I see nothing wrong with it, I hunt in public wildlife management areas with plenty of open areas that the above firearms would have major difficulty delivering killing blows (except some of those new space aged muzzleloaders!) across 250 - 400 yard cuts or watering holes and the like. It's not like they're going to "steal" all the best animals. ________ "...And on the 8th day, God created beer so those crazy Canadians wouldn't take over the world..." | |||
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Each year the Alberta Fish and Game Association vote on resolutions at its anual conference and takes these "requests" to the Provincial Gov't for consideration. In the past there have been resolutions asking for a limited, controled handgun hunt for deer (in Camp Wainwright an enclosed military base). Some "nay-sayers" always come out with the "It will never happen!" attitude. But you CAN BE SURE it will never happen if you never ask for it. I say we keep asking for something that is a reasonable request and if "they" keep saying no it is "they" who are making the mistake not us. One day there might be someone willing to take up our side in the Gov't and it will be easier for them if we are still asking. If we got a small consetion of a handgun hunt in a controled area like Wainwright our foot would be in the door. Robin. | |||
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I'm glad you're so optimistic Duffy and it would be nice, but I see it as an up mountain battle. I guess I'm a pessimist. The Provincial government may say, sure go ahead, but the Feds would probably just say, sorry you can't get a transport permit to take your handgun hunting, especially on a military base, under Federal jurisdiction. We gotta remeber that this entire Handgun thing up here is based on perception, rather than reality and that isn't about to change as long as the Easterners hold the reins of power. Grizz Indeed, no human being has yet lived under conditions which, considering the prevailing climates of the past, can be regarded as normal. John E Pfeiffer, The Emergence of Man Those who can't skin, can hold a leg. Abraham Lincoln Only one war at a time. Abe Again. | |||
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Well..ya gonna pull them pistols or stand there whistling dixie? At least someone there should get a grass roots party together and work on getting the laws changed. Not to change the subject but this is similar. The helmet law in Pa. was overturned (and it was'nt easy or quick)because enough riders kept persuing their "right to choose" vs all of the do gooders trying to protect us from ourselves. You see, laws can be changed but it takes willing people to take action for their causes and not bow before their government officials, wherever they may be. Once the grass roots movement takes place the momentum will keep growing until it overwhelms those against it. The freedom to choose really is worth the efforts expended. Do I ride without a helmet...damned right I do... because its my right to do so and ALL of my rights are important to me. Woody | |||
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I've heard it said that "wearing a helmet shows that there is something inside it worth protecting" Grizzly A In my view your post not only does nothing posative for the "gun owners cause" it has a negative effect. If you can't say anything to help our cause, please put a big piece of apple pie in your pie hole. | |||
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Sorry Duffy, but I live in the real world. Grizz Indeed, no human being has yet lived under conditions which, considering the prevailing climates of the past, can be regarded as normal. John E Pfeiffer, The Emergence of Man Those who can't skin, can hold a leg. Abraham Lincoln Only one war at a time. Abe Again. | |||
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I've already put in several calls to my Conservative MP and let him know my opinion on the firearms registry and handgun hunting. I told him "I'm approved to have them, I'm safe to have them, and I want to use them to hunt!!" | |||
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Thanks you for your more detailed answer. Your first post gave the impression I spoke about, to me anyway. Not caring is vastly different than being against it, which is the way I read you comments initailly. BTW: I hope hunting public land in Canada is a far cry better than the public land here in Wisconsin. Nothing more dangerous than being in the woods with the "part time" deer hunters who are reckless at best. Paul NRA Life Member IHMSA Member | |||
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In Canada we're supposed to feel lucky that they even let us keep any sort of hand gun let alone hunt with one. A wildlife official told me that New Brunswick pushed for a short handgun season for deer or bear (can't remember) knowing it would open up the interest in coming to canada to hunt (ie, $$$) But because the whole handgun bull is a federal law it was shot down. --------------------------------- It's better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it | |||
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Duffy, I don't want to start a pissing match... but I feel sorry for you since you missed the whole point in my post. Re-read the post beginning with "The freedom to choose". Its apparent that as long as there are people that think as you do you won't have to worry about having the freedom to use handguns for anything. Just keep letting the politicians shit all over you and see what you end up with. Ignore your rights, what you have left and they will surely go away...silently. Now my point AGAIN, if you want the laws to change, whatever they may be, YOU must do something to get the ball rolling. Yes, you may poke fun at whether I wear a helmet or not, but I fought for MY right to CHOOSE what is right for me, not the do-gooders and politicians. Now do you get it...I did something to help change the law and won. Nuff said. | |||
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I think you guys, talking optimistically about handgun hunting, have forgotten that a few short months ago, we were facing a total bans on Hanguns and the chances are very possible that if the electorate have another brain fart, we could be right back there. I would love to see more liberal regulations regarding handguns, but the dogma, Hanguns are bad, is so deeply engrained in our society, no politician in his right mind is going to go there. Hell, we even have a significant portion of the population who hold the same views about Longguns. The Mounties in Sakatchewan were killed with a Longgun, something I'm sure we'll hear about in the next few weeks from the antis. Grizz Indeed, no human being has yet lived under conditions which, considering the prevailing climates of the past, can be regarded as normal. John E Pfeiffer, The Emergence of Man Those who can't skin, can hold a leg. Abraham Lincoln Only one war at a time. Abe Again. | |||
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Woodrow I was just making a little joke. But in reality I can think of a whole lot of other things I would fight for my rights for. The right to choose not to weaqr a helmet is not one of them. I supose I could fight for the right to choose and then I would choose to wear one. And I would fight for the right of those who choose not to wear one to suffer the consquences and not get full medical coverage if they hurt their noodle. Grizz I didn't hear about any mountie shooting in Sask. I am down in Australia at the moment. When I get back to Alberta I will do some hunting with a handgun and send you a picture. Robin down under | |||
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Hi duffy; Yeah, the usual domestic thing gone wrong at Spiritwood. Three mounties evidently showed at a domestic disturbance. the suspect shot two of them in the head and missed the third. the two victims lived for a week before they turned off Life support. The guy went to ground and finally turned himself in yesterday. Seems he was found by a farm couple sleeping in their tractor, who talked him into surrendering after 6 hours. Before he surrendered, he sent a letter to the Edmonton Sun, complaining how the cops drove him to it and shot first. To hell with the picture. I want to go with you. Grizz Indeed, no human being has yet lived under conditions which, considering the prevailing climates of the past, can be regarded as normal. John E Pfeiffer, The Emergence of Man Those who can't skin, can hold a leg. Abraham Lincoln Only one war at a time. Abe Again. | |||
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What do you do? do you need a sponsor? | |||
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That happens here too. Despite the highly successful Hunter Safety programs, we're starting to hear about more and more hunting accidents. Very likely caused by hunters who can't shoot. There are no public ranges anywhere up here where a non-club member can go to sight in or practice. You can't use a gravel pit in most places either. There's no requirement to prove competency with a firearm to get a hunting licence. Mind you, they'll give anybody with $60 a driver's licence too. Even if you can't read English. No requirement to read, write or speak English to get a driver's licence. At least in Ontario. It's scary enough up here during deer season. Turning hunters who don't shoot regularly loose with a handgun would be really scary. "...in Pa..." Does PA let you hunt with a semi-auto rifle yet? Spelling and grammar count. | |||
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wait a minute... no ranges? Can't you just head out and find a nice safe piece of forest tack up a target with a safe background and touch off rounds for practice or sight in???? Ontario is not THAT crowded! I'm 6 miles from a state forest clear cut and shoot 1000yds regularly on it. You cant shoot on the public lands? puzzled. NEVER fear the night. Fear what hunts IN the night. | |||
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That's right LAWCOP I'm allowed to have my handguns at home and I can transport them to any GOVERNMENT approved range in Manitoba(that's where I'm from) and that sucks. The nearest range from me to shoot 200 yards with my Contender is an hour away. Our Government thinks the public is safer that way.Pure political BS as far as I'm concerned. | |||
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SO, what do the people who are a hundred miles from a govt approved range REALLY do?? My question had to do with any firearms. If you want to sight in a rifle can you go someplace out of the way and safe or do you still have to travel though miles of possible shooting places to go to the "range" and what makes an approved range vs a gravel pit so long as the back stop is safe? NEVER fear the night. Fear what hunts IN the night. | |||
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Rifles you can shoot anywhere safe, Just the handguns are an issue. | |||
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so you and the Gov. are saying that a handgun will kill or maim you more so than a rifle...get real. Handling a rifle or a handgun improperly will yield the same results and it takes no more brains to properly handle a handgun than it does a rifle. And no, Pa. does not allow hunting with any semi-auto rifle or handgun and I agree with the law as it is written and damned few people have sought to change it for obvious reasons. You simply do not need that kind of rapid firepower in a rifle to hunt anything. All of the hunters that I know that use handguns for hunting are very serious about their sport and are very good at it. Like I stated in an earlier post, for the most part Canada is missing out on a very large amount of money, that many small locales could use by not opening up their country to the handgun hunters. I am sure that it can be properly regulated just as it is any where else in theworld. I sat next to a nice woman from Capetown on my way over to SA and she did not even know I could bring handguns there to hunt. I can take my handguns just about anywhere in the world to hunt, with the proper paperwork done, but Canada our neighbor is one of the few exceptions. The government don't even trust the intelligence of their own people. It isn't unsafe, the governing party members in power just are not as sophisticated as everyone thinks. I think I'll get off my soapbox now. | |||
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mikehjd I hate to be "the realist' here but... "HANDLING OF FIREARMS 15. An individual may load a firearm or handle a loaded firearm only in a place where the firearm may be discharged in accordance with all applicable Acts of Parliament and of the legislature of a province, regulations made under such Acts, and municipal by-laws." Now when you combine that with the laws regarding the requirement to have "gun ranges" approved by the provincial firearms officer, it may not be legal to go out and target shoot anywhere (safe). It may be legal to set up a target and then "hunt rabbits"(or some other legal game). By shooting at the target. " Officer I am hunting rabbits, as is perfectly legal, and every time one runs up and sits infront of the target I shoot at him and miss". Robin down under | |||
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Crime and violence, disfunctional families and misguided indeviduals, drug dealers and pimps. Well it sure is good to know that all the citizens of Canada will have to put up with restrictive firearms legislation in order to keep some of the above from shooting some of the above. Supose we allowed people with some training and background checks to use hanguns more freely (say hunting in certian areas) And then use the death penalty to deal with anyone using a handgun in the comission of a crime. Robin down under | |||
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What this is about is politics, and the fact that firearms in Canada come under the Federal goverment's domain. We try to get the gov't to allow (and it makes me choke just to write that sentence) a controlled area handgun hunt, we have gotten close a couple of times. But everytime we do, the liberal/democrat city cave dwellers scream and moan about the "death toll", and everything goes down the crapper. We in Canada weren't blessed with a Bill of Rights (I know, lack of foresight on our forefathers part, but what's a descendant to do?), to protect our possession and use of firearms, and we have also had the demon nanny state in power for the majority of the last century. Hunters and shooters are a minority, and unfortunately one that it is not only legal but fashionable to discriminate against. The Bambi set in Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal and Vancouver (where our major populations reside)do not believe you have a right to hunt, or defend yourself. The whole thing is a huge cultural issue, with most city folk siding with the "banners" (because of crime and fear), and most small community/country folk just trying to get along with an overwhelming tide of left wing socialists. We have some hope with our newly minted conservative government, but it's slim at best, since to retain power they will have to cater to the soccar moms and urban dwellers, who always think that a ban is better then personal responsibility. The "I don't care" from hunters has done us no favours either, as the government uses this as a lever to split apart the firearms community (quite successfully, I might add), hunters don't care about handgunners, and they don't care about black rifles, and they don't care about machineguns, and pretty soon all guns are banned, and the hunters (and yes I am one) are left standing around whining about "thier" rights being trod upon. FWIW - dan "Intellectual truth is eternally one: moral or sentimental truth is a geographic and chronological accident that varies with the individual" R.F. Burton | |||
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Kind of depends on where you are. Near Toronto, there are roughly 10 million people living within an hour or so's drive. The County forests etc are also used by hordes of hikers, picnickers etc. There really is no nice safe forest. You can't swing a bat without hitting a building of some type in most of the area either. Spelling and grammar count. | |||
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