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Originally posted by 4sixteen:
SHunters may be hesitant to fire upon an aggressive Grizzly before it's too late because of the consequences of killing a protected species even in self-defence?

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Originally posted by sheephunterab:
I've encountered many grizzly sows with cubs....many at close range and several unexpected. I've encountered several bears on kills, including sows with cubs twice....I'm still alive and I'm not more bush savvy than Mr. Cross was. I don't buy into the argument that this is natural behavior for bears. If it was there would be hundreds of human deaths by grizzly bears each year. I think this was one bear that acted inappropriately and I can't understand why some people are so willing to give her a pass. That's my logic. Human deaths by grizzlies are extremely rare especially when you take into account the extreme overlap in areas like where this event occurred. This is not natural behaviour! I'd be dead if it was and so would hundreds of others. And what the heck was she "defending" her cub and food from. Did Mr. Cross pose some threat? That whole defense argument is a red herring...there was nothing to defend from.

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Do you no more of what went on with this latest grizzly encounter then what has been posted in the media?

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Originally posted by medved:
killing a grizzly especially a sow is not an easy decision, TJ you should remember what happened in Banff where they shot the wrong sow and cub (thanks for the DNA) so death penalty is just a band aid plaster.

you mentionned TJ that you videoed her and she didnt attack you so something happened that trigger that attack and nobody can say what make that attack.

as far the info i have she didnt fed on him like in the NWT killing.

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Originally posted by d.unger:
"When there is a predatory attack that results in a (human) killing, policy is that bear is euthanized," said Duncan MacDonnell, spokesman for Sustainable Resource Development.

"Once a bear considers humans as fair prey, that's a very dangerous situation."

This is a quote from a Calgary Herald article in Oct 2008 when a grizzly sow with cubs killed a man near Sundre AB. Somewhere along the line policy must have changed.

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Originally posted by Skyline:
Grizzlies react to situations. Given the right set of circumstances (or perhaps we should say wrong) they will take a round out of you.

Grizzlies on a kill, cubs, etc. If the situation is such that the person(s) and bear stumble into a specific set of circumstances they are going to react.

There will always be grizzly attacks if you stick a lot of people in grizzly country or you are involved in killing game in grizzly country. That is the nature of the beast and it is something we have to take into consideration when we chose to work or recreate in their environment.

If a grizzly attack is predatory in nature and not defensive that is one thing………. and that is rare with grizzlies……….. predatory behaviour certainly means the bear needs to be removed. But reactionary defensive attacks by bears that have not been in trouble before…… well I just do not believe the always have to be killed.

We allow predators or our own species to get off with light sentences and then release them back into society to do it again………. and we know they will repeat the offences…….. but we should just kill a sow and her cubs because she reacted the way she did. And her behaviour is far from surprising, it is behaviour in a situation we all know could be dangerous.

It has nothing to do with bravado or manliness…… that is certainly BS……. it has to do with taking responsibility for your actions and choices. If you chose to spend time in good grizzly country there is a chance you could get mauled if you inadvertently get yourself into a situation that triggers it.

Please spare me the innocent children crap……. that does not wash with me and it is the typical line used by Liberal minded people to impose restrictions on all of us that are not required and are typically feel good. Killing the sow and her cubs is just that, feel good euthanasia. That sow and her cubs will most likely not ever find themselves in that situation again, as it is unlikely that another hominid will accidentally blunder into a kill and cubs situation with this bear again. Killing them is feel good euthanasia. Makes the people who are afraid of bear attacks and those who think that people are so much more deserving of life than anything else on the planet, feel safer……….. but is most likely needless.

You have your views on this and I have mine. They are obviously not the same. Nothing you say is going to change my opinion on this as I have hunted and guided for grizzlies for many years and it is my opinion. Opinions are not worth a pinch of you know what. So I will leave it at that and I am not going to make any further comment on this thread.

Cheers!