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Thanks for the picture. I wonder if they have been counted in the official number. | |||
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A 30-30 with 170g CoreLokt's is plenty for black bear. I used to hunt them (successfully) with my 243 when I was a kid. Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | |||
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Many bears have been killed by many different calibers. That does not prelude them from running off after one presumes a decent hit. Thus shooting them again is a good idea if they are still moving. Two or more bullet holes can make for a better trail then one. | |||
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All that fur tends to soak up blood and you're likely tracking in thick cover. Grizz Indeed, no human being has yet lived under conditions which, considering the prevailing climates of the past, can be regarded as normal. John E Pfeiffer, The Emergence of Man Those who can't skin, can hold a leg. Abraham Lincoln Only one war at a time. Abe Again. | |||
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A whole lot of information, thanks.I didn't think I was able to go but things have changed and I could be hunting bear on my own during the last week of the season.If so I will try to start baiting a week or two before.The rifle I will use will most likely be a 458 Lott with open sights-just a personal choice.I need to find a tent.I hope to do some fishing too. | |||
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How high should the bag hang? | |||
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Dogleg,where can I find blocks of liqorice? | |||
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I am getting prepared.I bought 6,25kgs bags of molasses sweetened grain feed and a gallon of beaver gland concentrate.I went to a recycling yard and got two large plastic barrels with the tops on. | |||
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Sounds like your getting all set. I didn't go this year with my friend in Alberta and maybe that was a good thing. This would have been the week and he just to evacuate the area due to a wildfire. Hopefully everything turns out ok. A few years back we had a helicopter camp near us that kept having to move further away to keep from being burned out. They were fighting the Fort Mac fire. Scary stuff. Good luck with your hunt. Roger ___________________________ I'm a trophy hunter - until something better comes along. *we band of 45-70ers* | |||
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Thanks Cougarz. I was thinking of building a ground blind with branches and logs.I wonder if that would work? That is if I get them on bait.I have no experience with any kind of tree stand or sitting up in a tree. | |||
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By the time you get all this advice done, the season will be over. Grizz Indeed, no human being has yet lived under conditions which, considering the prevailing climates of the past, can be regarded as normal. John E Pfeiffer, The Emergence of Man Those who can't skin, can hold a leg. Abraham Lincoln Only one war at a time. Abe Again. | |||
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It was a late decision.I plan on driving up there for a single day to bait the week of the 8-15 and hunting from the 24-31 of June.I got some already asking for a steak.I hope I can deliver. | |||
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Yes ground blinds do work. You just need to be a little more careful of the wind. Depending on how much pressure they get will determine on how careful you need to be. Often bears with little or no pressure often already know your there will come in anyway. The only time I'm extra careful about wind is in my home state which is only spot & stalk but doesn't have a ton of pressure. But there are a lot of hikers in the mountains at the same time and that keeps them on guard. No matter the setup up take your time before shooting. Let the bear start feeding, get settled down and in a good position before firing. Don't rush the shot. Most of all have fun learning the ropes! Roger ___________________________ I'm a trophy hunter - until something better comes along. *we band of 45-70ers* | |||
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Never tried it successfully, but under those circumstances, I'd be tempted to try a honey burn and see what happens. Baiting is not a very short term option, can take some time and is actually a lot of work before you can know if it's working. Grizz Indeed, no human being has yet lived under conditions which, considering the prevailing climates of the past, can be regarded as normal. John E Pfeiffer, The Emergence of Man Those who can't skin, can hold a leg. Abraham Lincoln Only one war at a time. Abe Again. | |||
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I think I'll try a honey burn.Thanks for the tip. | |||
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Should I fill the whole 45 gallon drum with feed? How much should I put in. | |||
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If you can't bait every day or every other day. I would fill it mostly full. | |||
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If the bears find the bait quickly, how long before they eat the whole thing? Does a drum full usually last a week? | |||
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Depends a lot on the hole size in the barrel. The type of bait how many bears using the site. If they really have to work at it I would hope it keep the interested for a week. We can't use barrels here so a hollow stump is use. the bears well clean up as much as you put out for them in that situation. I use 5 gallons at a time every day 3 weeks before season. Before that a couple gallons every other day. | |||
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I heard that the hole should be about 6X6 inch square or just large enough for them to get their paw in. | |||
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Sounds about right | |||
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It cost a fortune to fill two drums. | |||
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Bear baiting isn't cheap for sure. | |||
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Always used meat scraps and rejects from a super market, free for the taking. It's the work involved to do it right that's the killer. Grizz Indeed, no human being has yet lived under conditions which, considering the prevailing climates of the past, can be regarded as normal. John E Pfeiffer, The Emergence of Man Those who can't skin, can hold a leg. Abraham Lincoln Only one war at a time. Abe Again. | |||
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Since I plan on eating the bear meat I will only feed it what I would eat myself.As far as work goes I agree. | |||
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It is a lot of work just cleaning the four drums and trying to get the petrol odor out. | |||
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Interestingly if you leave a can of gas out in the bush the Bears will drink it. Roger ___________________________ I'm a trophy hunter - until something better comes along. *we band of 45-70ers* | |||
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Lots of barrels available that have other less nasty stuff in them, like vegetable oil. Bears seem to have a real hankering for ATV seats as many people have found. Had a Grizzly here gobble up a 5 gallon pail of white paint. Grizz Indeed, no human being has yet lived under conditions which, considering the prevailing climates of the past, can be regarded as normal. John E Pfeiffer, The Emergence of Man Those who can't skin, can hold a leg. Abraham Lincoln Only one war at a time. Abe Again. | |||
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Yes I've seen a few ATV seats eaten too. They seem to like the taste of foam rubber. Roger ___________________________ I'm a trophy hunter - until something better comes along. *we band of 45-70ers* | |||
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The area I am hunting is wild enough that bears eat their natural food. | |||
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I am going to drive up there on Thursday to set up my baits.I will bring along my camera and take some pics. | |||
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Bears like chewing on bungee straps. I do not think you well find your barrels in a up right position when you get back. Plus they are not strong enough. Chain or cable is the only way to keep them attached. Hopefully they haven't rolled them to far away. Good luck on your baiting and hunting. | |||
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Sorry to have to say it, but you're in way over your head. Better go back to square one and find someone who has done this before to show you the ropes. Grizz Indeed, no human being has yet lived under conditions which, considering the prevailing climates of the past, can be regarded as normal. John E Pfeiffer, The Emergence of Man Those who can't skin, can hold a leg. Abraham Lincoln Only one war at a time. Abe Again. | |||
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Photos deleted.I should have known better than to share my hunting pics here. | |||
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Geez.........this whole thing ha been a train wreck waiting to happen, I have been guiding and outfitting for bear for over 40 years/ Watching this topic has been painful. No worries Shootaway, just put in a bait hole and some donuts and heck, that is all there is to it. ______________________________________________ The power of accurate observation is frequently called cynicism by those who are bereft of that gift. | |||
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Why? So things went a little haywire but so what. Everybody's got to start somewhere. Sure going with a guide first makes it easier but at least in my mind figuring it out, asking questions of others - and making mistakes are all part of the journey and the reward. Actually shooting something at the end is a bonus. As long as you had a good time and learned something it's all good. Roger ___________________________ I'm a trophy hunter - until something better comes along. *we band of 45-70ers* | |||
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That's how we do it in Wis. by regulation. We kill over 5000 bears a year with that method. Sometimes it is that simple. The biggest bear I shot over 500lbs was on a donut bait less then a week old. Beside not securing his barrels with something better the bungees. I don't see anything wrong. Most likely had plans on two sites but due to access problems put them all at one. As far as getting struck been there done that. It happens. Shootaway don't be put off by the nay Sayers. Go back and you could shoot a nice one. | |||
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[URL= ]entrance to the zone[/URL] [URL= [URL= ]molasses[/URL] [URL= ]trail camera on tree in the background[/URL] [URL= ]digger coming ][IM I talked to the person at the front desk and was told they got 26 hunters so far and only 2 bear were taken.I asked her why so few and she said that is because most did not hunt. The ranger who suggested this bait site by the lake told me that my chances are excellent because I have the whole area to myself.I also did a drag with a towel drenched in beaver gland concentrate.That was the reason I got stuck.I went down a steep, rocky road leading to a boat launch.When I tried to go back up I moved to the side to avoid the big rocks in the middle and the road caved. | |||
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I thought the same about the bungees until I tried them on a barrel on a hydro pole behind my place.I've seen them used on a couple of you tube videos. | |||
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Thanks for putting the pictures back up. Wearing good bug protection well allow you to spend more time on the bait. | |||
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