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Seems one of Alberta's hunting "Poster Boys" has got himself in hotwater. http://www.whitehorsestar.com/...arrassed-and-ashamed | ||
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Very sad and disappointed. I have never met him and never corresponded with him but I followed Pat’s quest for the NA29 and he appeared to me to be a pretty enthusiastic, decent and regular sort of guy (As far as I could tell through a hunting forum). Mistakes do happen but I suspect he will be held to a higher standard… and I guess he probably should be. | |||
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already posted here but always good to keep track on them ... http://forums.accuratereloadin...1085291/m/2981051302 | |||
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Having a client shooting some thing from the road where hunting isn't legal for long ways isn't a mistake it is a will full act. | |||
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You are correct. It wasn't my intention to in any way validate or rationalize the act of the guide. Perhaps "mistake" was a poor choice of words. I can only imagine the anger and frustration of the affected hunters and the outfitter. | |||
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Is it true this fellow has been charged again in the Yukon? | |||
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Looks like it. http://www.whitehorsestar.com/...iolating-hunting-ban ____________________________________________ "Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." Terry Pratchett. | |||
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Seems to be an overabundance lately, with outfitters, guides and T.V. shows trying to be famous. Or is it my imagination? Both times this guide said he didn't know. You would think a guide would know, no? | |||
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http://forums.accuratereloadin...1085291/m/7271014022 | |||
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maybe the justine is less prone to listen them and more judging on facts who knows ... | |||
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I think it has more to do with the fact that we live in a society infatuated with celebrities these days. 99% of the news is about 1% of the people. It's kind of sad really. Eleanor had it right! | |||
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Really? I guess you would think that these things shouldn't be discussed then? And while we are at it, I wouldn't really put outfitters, guides and such in the "celebrity" status. Your response doesn't surprize me considering...... | |||
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Where did I say they shouldn't be discussed? I was just commenting on your question of why we see so much more press about the 1%. That's what's sad. You may not think you put them in that status but the lack of discussion about the other 99% convicted speaks volumes. Society is infatuated with people of status. Read the title of this thread...enough said! | |||
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Percentages??? I said that? All I said was that there has been an overabundance lately. In the past it was a rarity compared to now. And this is just in my home province. And ,yes, it is kinda sad really. | |||
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No you asked why we are seeing so much more of it in the media....I offered a reason why. It's our celebrity obsessed culture. Last year in Alberta there were 6,731 enforcement actions against hunters/anglers/back-country users. Which ones do you suspect made the news? Which ones do you suspect are being discussed on messageboards? | |||
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I guess this is hopeless. Oh, by the way, would you know what t.v. show Mr. Garrett was "helping" out?? | |||
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Yup, I sure do. | |||
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Now that is funny!  "The difference between adventure and disaster is preparation." "The problem with quoting info from the internet is that you can never be sure it is accurate" Abraham Lincoln | |||
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Thought you might. | |||
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I am not defending the guy at all . These rules are surprising to me. 8K's is a damn long way. Many many places routinely have 2 on 1 hunts. The rules are pretty strict. He is a total idiot for violating the order. | |||
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hello, i do not think this a witch hunt but more idiots that think because they re on tv can do whatever they want and nothing will happen to them. our rules here are strict but seems some are not getting the message so they should be stricter. having guided in different places, Larry i think that the rule 1/1 is a very good rule. | |||
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I'm really confused....what does this have to do with TV people? Was the television crew charged for something or did they just unknowingly book a hunt with an outfitter that hired someone illegally? | |||
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TJ i always love when you play the devil s advocate. seems as always you know more than even the justice. that guy was caught end of the story. he was working while a show was done and maybe the tv guys were happy to have him in the camp as a ...celeb... and didnt knew about his previous conviction but seems the outfitters from Yukon this time didnt keep their mouth shout and that is good. he wont come back here and nobody so far will cry his departure ... | |||
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What was the TV show? | |||
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cant tell Larry but pretty sure someone will chime in or even see it on outdoor network. | |||
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There's some thin skin on this, as I read the responses, from some. Btw, it would be nice to just get the straight facts. People that know what happened are clearly trying not to offend certain parties. As an outsider, it would be nice to hear the true facts. | |||
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you wont get the real story as it was an agreement between the crown and his lawyer. the rest is speculation ... | |||
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About 15 years ago, I hunted with Pete Jensen. His area was on both sides of the Dempster Highway. I remember them speaking of the "no shoot" zone along the Dempster. I do not recall the distance . Is it 8 K's all along the road or just parts ? I remember seeing a local who had taken a sheep. I would strongly suspect it was within 8 K's. | |||
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hello, the no shooting zone except for caribous was 500 metres from the highway and was removed last year. http://www.env.gov.yk.ca/hunti...tions.php#regchanges now on grizzly zones 2.26 to 2.28 is closed. and there is a 8km ban zone for motor vehicles nothing to do with hunting. the zones along demspter highway after tombstone are grizzly free of hunting and you need to move inside to get one legally... here is the map: http://www.environmentyukon.ca...s/view/zoom/1/29/365 hunting regulations: http://www.env.gov.yk.ca/hunti...nting_regs_15-16.pdf | |||
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I don't believe that was ever in question. I'm still trying to understand your disparaging comments about the TV show. | |||
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TJ you are jumping on concluion or defending someone ... are you involved in that show? as it seems you are trying to defend that story. english is not my mother tongue but an outfitter mentionned his name while talking to the COs. maybe not the one that hired him ... a tv crew was there and i can say for reason that i believe that if the Pat was in the Yukon there is a chance it is related to the tv show ... as i already told you it is always good to choose wisely the outfitters you are working with or for nothing new here. and as a public person if you can not stand critics there is a problem. | |||
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If your business is killing for show and your not producing the kill shot then there is no show. If the outfitter or guides aren't getting the client the kill then they don't have repeat customers. I think what makes celebs and outfitter/guides more of a spectacle compared to the average " enforcement action " is that it's usually shooting a deer on private property for average joe. Where the tv shows, outfitters and guides will go to greater lengths and take greater risks to get the shot or worse yet cover it up and that is news worthy! I'm not saying that all celebs, outfitters and guides are poachers but when money is involved or reputations/ egos are on the line the kill shot is what is most important! If you want to see what I mean look at most wildlife agency's Facebook sites you'll see both average joe and the celeb get equal air time. I've benn on some great outfitted hunts and all was on the up and up but I've also contacted many more that you knew were a little too willing to get you the animal of your dreams. Just my view on it all. Yours may differ and that's ok. | |||
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No involvement at all Phil. I know what I read in the news and on Facebook...no more. I'm not trying to defend anything but I'm not one to make wild, unfounded accusations either. You are the one making the wild accusations. I'm just trying to find out what you know. It appears no more than me. | |||
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In the past 15 years or so I'm aware of one Canadian TV host being charged for wildlife infractions. I'm not sure why people believe it's so rampant. I'd say most TV shows take less "risks" to get a kill on camera. The stakes are too high if they cross the line. Getting one show that ends a career really wouldn't make much sense. There's always another hunt to go on. | |||
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TJ i do not know anything esle that what people are talking abougt in town as we can t get so far the info from the court house this time. i didnt put any accussation so far and im not involved in that case but as a local hunter when there is a story of poaching or wildlife breaking laws in our territory im voicing it. we have to clean our own rank and if someone is starting to have the habit to do stuff and think he want be caught then this is our role ... we do not have unlimited amount of fauna, this is a gragile paradise. | |||
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I'm all for sharing the facts Phil.....it's the other unfounded speculation that I don't see the point of. But carry on! | |||
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i ve guided enough tv shows and the celebrities related to that to get a good idea about it. so far never(no more guiding also) got a crew trying to bypass any hunting or other laws. so far the one i preferred were bow hunters ones but that is right for most no kill no show and this is where it leads the future customers and viewers that hunting sometimes is easier than featured and can bring a lot of deception .. | |||
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What TV show was involved? | |||
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