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I know that DOT classifies dry ice as a hazardous substance. Will I have any problem bringing moose and caribou meat accross the border packed in dry ice? Thanks, Stoney
 
Posts: 336 | Location: Central PA | Registered: 01 February 2004Reply With Quote
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I think your biggest problem with dry ice for moose and caribou is going to be finding it, as very few locations will have any, and even in the bigger cities it's not easy to find. Bagged ice is what you can find anywhere. My suggestion is to have it butchered and deboned at camp (lots of butchers won't accept boned game since the Mad Cow BS), then freeze and packed in coolers. ~Arctic~


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Posts: 277 | Location: Yellowknife, NWT, Canada | Registered: 13 October 2002Reply With Quote
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Stoney,
How are you traveling home by plane or vehicle, how many days will it take you to get home?
If you cannot find dry ice nor get your meat wrapped and frozen, I would recommend this.

I always place my meat in big trashbags, doubled to prevent puncture by any bones.
If I kill something in warm weather I leave the trash bags open until the meat has cooled down.
Then put as much ice in the cooler as you can.
Every day I check the ice and drain the excess water. I have kept elk, bear, deer, and pig meat like this for as many as 7 travel days without any problems.
Even if the meat gets wet it will still be ok as long as you keep plenty of ice on it.

PS. In my college days I was a butcher, so I know a "little" bit about meat.


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I don't know if this is possible for you, but when three of us hunted Newfoundland, we put a chest freezer in the bed of my pickup, with a couple of 50' extension cords. Got the freezer cold before we hit the road, and when we stopped for the night on the way home, we ran the cord out the motel room window, and plugged in the freezer overnight. Did this for two nights. Asked permission at the motels, and had no problems at all. Meat was frozen solid when we got home. Needless to say, we had the meat butchered and wrapped before we left Nfld.
Don't know if this is any help, but it sure works for me.
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Posts: 106 | Location: Mid_Hudson Valley of New York | Registered: 07 January 2005Reply With Quote
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I baught 20 odd kilos(44lb) of the stuff for a hunting trip last time I was home in the desert to keep our food(beer) cold. What it did was freeze everything touching it, keep other stuff cool, but only lasted three days.

In cooler climes it would work better, also, using it in a container that is being opened and closed often won't help either, but I notice that your question is more related to legal matters, which I cannot help you with. NE 450's advice is good, although personally I would try my very best to keep the meat dry.
 
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Same idea as Yankee Doodle, a friend of mine move a few province over after hunting season, got his chest freezer in the back of his truck and plugged it in an inverter in his truck. Had the freezer running the whole trip!
 
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Dry ice is a great thing...

I recently recieved a bunch of mea that had been frozen, then packed in a thich styro cooler with dry ice.

It was mailed across the country, took 4-5 days.

When I recieved it, everything was frozen solid, butthe ice had evaporated. An excelletn way to pack meat fro shipping, IMHO, but I have no idea where to get it! Big Grin


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Posts: 3082 | Location: Pemberton BC Canada | Registered: 08 March 2001Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Stoneybroke:
I know that DOT classifies dry ice as a hazardous substance. Will I have any problem bringing moose and caribou meat accross the border packed in dry ice? Thanks, Stoney

As a word of caution, dry ice depletes the oxygen.Jim White and I had 4 boxes of Mule Deer in the back of a station wagon. We stopped to take a nap on the way home and nearly died as a result.
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Posts: 1326 | Location: glennie, mi. USA | Registered: 14 July 2003Reply With Quote
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Most major Airports have someone in the area that sells dry ice.


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Posts: 980 | Location: Illinois | Registered: 04 January 2003Reply With Quote
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You'll not have a problem crossing the border if you're driving. Dry ice can't be put in a plane, when I used to work for a food distributior we sent and received food samples a lot and if it had to go on a plane we used gel packs otherwise we used dry ice. If it's in your vehicle remember that it expands to 1500 times it's origional volume and can pop out your windows (theoretically). It's also true that it produced carbon dioxide which replaces oxygen and is heavier than air so it's better in the back of the truck than behind the seat. Throw a small handful on your beer and it will be nicely chilled, put it in your cooler and things will stay nicely frozen without the mess of melting ice.

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Right now, I'm undecided about travel mode. Since I'm traveling alone, it will actually be cheaper to fly. I'm looking at about $800 for a round trip ticket from State College, PA to Goose bay, versus 3400 miles driving expense + motels+ferry tickets. In any case, I plan on having my meat butchered, debonned, and wrapped. Question: How expensive ship the meat from Newfoundland to PA? (If that is not practical, I'll go with the chest freezer idea.) I know that an unopened freezer will keep meat several days, and provide much better security in an open truck bed.
 
Posts: 336 | Location: Central PA | Registered: 01 February 2004Reply With Quote
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I brought bear meat and the hide back from Canada to Texas by airplane. The meat was butchered, wrapped, then it and the hide was frozen. It was packed in 2 heavy duty cardboard boxes and checked as excess baggage. If I remember correctly I paid $80 US for each box.
The meat was still frozen when I got to the house. I would not trust shipping frozen meat as who knows what can happpen, I much rather check it as excess baggage.
I did the same thing bringing back bear from Montana, except I packed it frozen in a heavy duty trash bags inside a duffle bag. Again the meat/hide was still frozen when I got to the house.Just allow enough tiome for the meat to be processed and frozen if you shoot it on the last day of the hunt. Big Grin


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