I know this has probably been brought up before. But I'm going to ask anyways. The possibilites of me going on a hunt in Canada are looking good. I want to take one of my own rifles with me. My buddy who has dual citizenship says I can borrow one his rifles. So what do I have to do, to get a rifle into Canada legally. Thanks.

John

"Dual citizenship" means nothing to Canada Customs, as regards bringing a rifle into Canada. If you REALLY want to bring your rifle into Canada ...... you must register the gun at the border and pay the bastards (I also have Canada/USA dual citizenship) 50.00 for the privilege of doing so. If you happen to lose the gun in Canada......Canada Customs will assume you sold it there....and will become a real pain-in-the-ass. Canada USED TO be a nice place to live and play. No more! I sincerely suggest that if you have a pal in Canada who can lend you a rifle, it might be simpler for you.

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I heard the fee had been reduced to $25 (Canadian).

If two people (husband and wife in this case) go on a hunting trip together - do they each need to register their rifles and pay $25 each, or can they just use one form (and one fee)?

Thanks,
Washougal Chris

Along with two friends, I made a hunting trip to Canada in October 2005.

We crossed into Canada from northern Idaho with seven rifles among us.

The FIRST (and just as critical) stop is on the US side of the border, to get a form completed which will allow you to bring your rifles BACK into the USA. There's no charge for this, and it's quite painless. They inspect the rifles and record the numbers on the form, which YOU keep, and away you go.

On the Canadian side, you present a form with the rifles' numbers etc , and this form can be downloaded off the the Internet for completion in advance, but NOT SIGNED until at the border. Up to three firearms (NO handguns!) can be imported on a single form, for the same single fee....the amount of which I dis-remember right now. Compared to the cost of the trip, it was peanuts anyway.

It was interesting, in that the US officials looked at the rifles to verify numbers before we went into Canada, but the Canadians did NOT. In addition, on the way back into the USA, the US inspectors did NOT look at the rifles, but did check the trophies for brain tissue etc. Stopping on the Canadian side when leaving is not necessary.

I detest the necessity for all this, but it had to be done in order to go hunting on my brother's place in Alberta. Even if you borrow a rifle from a Canadian, you STILL need a "Borrowing License" to be within the letter of their incredible laws.

For the real story, go to

http://www.cfc.gc.ca

which is the Canadian Firearms Center, the government bureaucracy which administers firearm laws in Canada. Do some exploring there after you check out the "visitors" section, to see how bad it really CAN BE.

It was a great trip, but I was mighty happy to feel the USA under my boots again!

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BOTH nations have laws which are a p.i.t.a. to ordinary, decent guys who simply want to bring their rifles into the other nation for a hunting trip/gunsmithing or just to show relatives or friends. "Bren", IIRC, lived here in Liberal-befouled Canada for quite some time and I also remember the "good old days" when you simply declared your guns at the border and away you went.

Yanks USED to be able to transport their handguns through Canada to get to Alaska w/o any real difficulty and so they should be able to, IMO. The entry into this country of extreme foreign elements who then jump into politics with their group agendas AND largely support the utterly vile Liberals has a lot to do with this.

Sniping back and forth about whose gun laws are worst is not going to stop the disease afflicting both Canada and the U.S.A. We need an international agreement between our nations to protect and enhance gun owner's rights and an amendment to the Canadian Constitution that emulates the Second Amendment in the U.S. The first step is to crush the corrupt and treacherous Liberals at the polls on the 23rd instant.

Alf, ol' man;

I lived under the benighted and oppressive Canadian gun laws for FIFTY BLOODY YEARS, watching as they got worse and worse in spite of our political efforts, complying with the stupid regulations as they got ever more restrictive and complex.

I finally moved my family OUT of the hostile anti-gun environment you call "not so bad" in 1997, as the latest and worst batch of idiocy was being inflicted on Canadian gunowners.

Most Canadians don't even KNOW just "how bad" their gun laws are! Are you aware that you have NO right to remain silent, if the cops come to search your home for "firearms, ammunition, or paperwork pertaining thereto"??? It's an 'indictable offence' (same as a "felony" in the USA) to not co-operate with a search of your own home, and get this: SILENCE is specifically identified in the actual law as NON-CO-OPERATION. The penalty for this is also specified...only up to a mere TEN YEARS in prison and/or $10,000 fine.

Now, if your visiting hunter happens to be sitting in his blind with a borrowed-without-a-license gun a few hundred yards from where YOU are sitting in YOUR blind, I pity you, trying to maintain that he was "under your direct and immediate supervision" when the game cop shows up to check licences. You'd best hope that cop is not having a bad day.

Also, I did NOT "make out that it is so difficult or terrible" to bring a rifle in. All I did was state the actual procedure, and our experience with it, without editorializing about it....except to say I was glad to be back in the USA, which is the utter and heart-felt truth.

I imported over sixty rifles, shotguns and handguns to the USA when we left Canada, and they all were transported personally. There was NO hassle and no fees involved, just a matter of having the paperwork correctly filled out.

If I didn't still have kin in Canada, I'd never set foot across that border again. It's a wonderful country that's been driven into the depths by successive socialistic-leaning goverments, and I have no desire to support them in any fashion including my travel dollars. I'm hoping the Conservatives whip the 'Lie-berals' in the present election, but I also well remember that previous Conservative governments ALSO enacted anti-gun laws.

FIFTY YEARS, sir. I KNOW of where I speak.

BruceB:
You express my feelings far better than I could. THANK YOU! I grew up in Canada. I now live in "The States", and would NEVER return to Canada to live. My Mom is there, as is a brother, and a small goup of surviving family. So, I visit there once or twice a year. For what Canada Customs did to my late father (he was old and very ill, with infected and supperating surgical wounds .... and the bastards at the Canada border strip-searched him) I will never forgive the low-life bastards.
Try to find a gun dealer in Canada, and you will only find the big-box guys with incredibly stupid employees; the days of the small and knowledgeable firearms dealer are gone in Canada.... choked off by the succession of repressive governments. So help me, I cry for what has become of my native country.

There is NO more patriotic, proud Canadian than I am, but, Bren is 110% right on this issue and his point concerning the ignorance of most Canucks concerning "our" gun laws is all too true.

When the communist, homosexual, urban, trendy Pierre Elliot Trudeau became Prime Minister in 1968, the die was cast as the systematic destruction of traditional, British-based Canadian values began. The object was and is to create a nation of post-modern "serfs" that will be docile and allow the mega-corporations that run this country to rape our resources and enslave us; the thin veneer of "socialism" is simply a disguise for what is really happening.

Immigration legislation, the foul lie of "mulitculturalism", state dominated healthcare, daycare by state minions, abortion on demand as birth control, "human rights" legislation and appointed tribunals, "hate speech" and "hate crimes" legislation, soft policies on "recreational" drugs and on and on; these are the tools of the faceless enemy who is/has destroyed Canadian freedom.....and our brainwashed youth, even gun owners, march in lockstep with every one of these policies.

We need a revolution.

Your lucky you are an american bringing guns into canada. it is much harder for canadians to bring their guns into the US. I found out the hard way. i just moved to Arizona from canada. figured i would bring my guns across at chirstmas instead of bringing them with me when i moved. didnt want to hastle with the border at that time. any way now that i have moved to Az and am a resident i cannot even apply for that atf form 6 on my own which takes 2 months to get. now i have to find a licensed gun dealer in the state of AZ to fill out the paper work for me and import the rifles. then i will have to pay a transfer fee on each rifle from $20 - $50. so any canadians that want to bring guns into the states if moving here you must fill out the form 2 months before you plan on moving and then take them with you when you originally move. now i will probably have to buy new guns down here because it is such a pain in the ass to get them across the border. make sure you stop at the US side before you bring your guns into canada and fill out the form or from what i understand when you try to bring your guns back into the US they have the power to sieze them unless you can prove to their liking that the guns originated from the US. that is what that form is for.

I still smile every time I think back to when I landed in Calgary (as one of those dreaded immigrants ), with two of my guns (two others were sent via mail to Corlanes in Dawson Creek for later pick-up). I was planning to get the temp license at the border. I had received an e-mail from CFC the day I left that my PAL had been issued, but obviously I didn't have it with me, as it had been sent to my CDN address. So the customs officer asks about the gun cases, and leaves to consult whomever backstage, when I ask him to issue the temp permit. He comes back ten minutes later, and tells me I can't have the temp permit for whatever reason. So there I am, holding guns, knowing there is a permit to cover them, but with an officer that doesn't want to budge. I then remember the e-mail from CFC, unfold the print-off and show it to the customs officer. Mind you, anybody could have typed up this e-mail in a word processor from the looks of it. The officer however seems happy and waves me through, without even opening the gun cases.

Frans

Gosh, I don't know, seems like if someone is going to spend $20,000 on a Stone Sheep hunt they shouldn't complain too much about a $50 fee to bring a gun into Canada. Why make the good citizens of Canada pay for the administrative costs necessary to carry out the will of the majority of citizens in Canada.

As for inconvienience, seems to me the last time I entered Canada they checked my car thoroughly for Cigarettes and liquor even though I said I didn't have any with me. And becasue I only stayed in Canada for a day I was thoroughly check by U.S. Customs on the way back (they probably thought I had made a day trip up to smuggle something back in)

I most heartedly agree that when one has been around awhile and had absolute free reign with guns it is a bit tough to get used to all of these regulations. HOwever, when you (God Forbid) become a relative of a person who has been killed by a gun you start to think a bit differently.

Laws are not changed by words. They are changed by action. They are changed by making the trip to your representative who supports your view, by donating to candidates who support your view, and yes, by running for office if nobody else supports your view.

You can talk about liberals all you want.But unless you put your money where your mouth is you will never get anywhere, whether it be in Canada, the States, England, France, or Africa. Money and action speak louder than words.

THAT is a damned good post and absolutely right on. Our problem here in Canada is that most people have no interest in guns or hunting AND most people also have been slowly brainwashed into an attitude that "government should do it", child care, housing or whatever. When a Conservative candidate dares to mention that maybe individuals should look after their own lives, he is reviled as being, "meanspirited".

So, the fight to preserve and enhance our essential freedoms is being lost as it appears that most Canadians do not want freedom, they want security. I expect this to continue and increase as time goes by, as T.S.Eliot put it, "this is the way the world ends, not with a bang, but a whimper".

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Well, just wait, that's coming as Toronto's Mayor, Ontario's Premier, "our" Prime Minister and "our" former B.C. Premier, the "Punjabi of the Millenium", Ujjal Dosanjh have all made VERY clear. Why Ujjal, who came to Canada/B.C. in 1968 thinks that he has the "right" to ban my use of ANY gun, is beyond me; I was a B.C. Gov't. employee using a gun in my work every day when Ujjal came here, but, "the times, they are a'changin'".

The fact is that the United Nations wants to ban ALL private ownership of firearms and then the civilized, elegant Kofi Annan and other such great humanitarians can rule the entire world without any backtalk from we "white" peasants. I wonder how Ujjal, Kofi and their ilk intend to ENFORCE this ban, could be a bit of fun..........

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It's some 10 years since I brought firearms across the border into Canada but I really don't think things have changed too much even after 9/11 ( and I did it after I had to park and get out of the car and go into the Customs Office and register the serial number of my rifle because I had no filled out paper work) You will be treated courteously. The officer will explain very clearly what he wants from you. His manner will be pleasant - but firm. You will be subjected to a close look of the experienced officer. (If he doesn't like what he sees, you may be in trouble) Be open and answer polite questions in a polite manner and I am sure you will get through Canadian Customs with not very much difficulty.