Guys,

This is just an observation and not a criticism. Have any of you noticed what seems to be that this Forum is more of a Political Forum than a Canadian Hunting Forum?

Granted, that politics and its affect on hunting are sometimes joined at the hip but the Canadian "Hunting" Forum stands out among the rest as being more Political than its moniker suggest.

We do have a Political Forum and many of our Canuk brethern participate on it. Again, no criticism intended.

DB

You make a very valid point and I am among the "worst offenders" in this regard. The problem is that the situation concerning hunting is unique in Canada and the solutions to our problems with guns/hunting are primarily political in nature. If, we are to continue to have ANY hunting here, we MUST be political and strongly so, as much as many of us rightfully despise most politicians.

I honestly think that hunting for average Canucks will be gone in the next decade, if we don't get active and stay strong. It's a p.i.t.a., but, it's necessary. Good post, BTW.

I think ours (U.S.) is way down the path, too, Kutenay. AND! You'd think I'd know how to spell "Canuk", eh?

DB

All hunting is political now. For those who refuse to be active you will have only yourselves to blame when it is finished.

What have you done today to save Hunting?

I post many polical threads having to do with Canada on Politics but its mostly dominated by Americans who are hung up on the Dem and Rep battle. A thread about Canada's hunting and shooting from a political stand point gets bumped to the 3rd page pretty quick and guys like Bruce don't talk about these topics so theres only so much 3 or 4 Canucks can post to keep the discussion alive. Most Americans just make a comment about us being socuialist so I think it gets better attention and responses over here. We care so why not discuss it here. Guys like yourself Dungbeetle are more than welcome to join in.

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All hunting is political now

Sadly, Mickey, you are right. The good old days are just that and if you're not a part of the solution you are the problem.

Thanks B.R. I know you guys must miss 'ole blue', right? That's a joke, boys. I've picked up some pearls from this forum.

DB

It sure would be nice if Politics didn't figure into hunting, or shooting, but sadly, those days are past. If we want things not to get worse, we'd best do more than talk. Write letters for example.

i tried that write a letter thing, and voiced myself as to how this whole metis huntin thing seems to be racist, and all i got back was a letter sayin how i was the racist,,i allmost blew a gasket,,as far as im concerned these ass holes in government dont give a rats ass how we feel,,thats my two cents anyway..

It is not just on AR. I never have understood it. They have the best hunting in the Western Hemisphere (not including Alaska), yet they spend all their time moaning about politics. There should be a seperate "Canadian Politics" thread.

Maybe most of the guys posting are retired and don't get to the field anymore.

The Politicians want to end gun ownership in Canada. If it were your country, wouldn't you be mad?

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Originally posted by Kensco:
It is not just on AR. I never have understood it. They have the best hunting in the Western Hemisphere (not including Alaska), yet they spend all their time moaning about politics. There should be a seperate "Canadian Politics" thread.

Maybe most of the guys posting are retired and don't get to the field anymore.

This has got to be the dumbest post I've seen in a long time. The 100's of hunters I've known in my life here in Canada don't "spend all there time moaning about politics". They spend what spare time they have hunting. So what if we're vocal about politics. We could stick our heads in the sand like many of our southern neighbours and pretend our shit don't stink.

There's better hunting in B.C over Alaska btw. Maybe they have a couple of species we don't but we have dozens that they don't.

Hello;
Of course, we could go quietly into the night, like the Brits. The carrying ons of the NRA may offend some sensibilities, but you can't deny that they have been an effectice force in preserving gun ownership and hunting rights in the U.S. Can you imagine the ruckus there, if some Liberal wing nut had the nerve to suggest that Hand Guns were not sporting weapons? It never ceases to amaze me, that when the British government outlawed all hanguns, the sheep there just quietly handed them in. But then, I guess that's what decades of social engineering does to you. Another 10 years and we will be there too.
Grizz

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Originally posted by Grizzly Adams:
Hello;
Of course, we could go quietly into the night, like the Brits. The carrying ons of the NRA may offend some sensibilities, but you can't deny that they have been an effectice force in preserving gun ownership and hunting rights in the U.S. Can you imagine the ruckus there, if some Liberal wing nut had the nerve to suggest that Hand Guns were not sporting weapons? It never ceases to amaze me, that when the British government outlawed all hanguns, the sheep there just quietly handed them in. But then, I guess that's what decades of social engineering does to you. Another 10 years and we will be there too.
Grizz

Its baffles me that people like Kensco think we shouldnt say anything about it.

We don't have an NRA to fight our battles for us. We have to do it ourselves.
Part of that is keeping our fellow hunters and shooters stirred up enough to bitch about it.

well i aint retired,,and im gonna do all i can to get new people with guns in there hands,,my buddy teachs the course,and i bring guys in 7 at a time,,people who aint never held a gun,,and they start likeing it,,and i teach the hunter ed course..i think it is a big country and takeing guns out of our hands might not be all that easy,,,most people i know would not let them go all that easy,,,

Good work, jesus, we need more guys like you in our country! Keep it up and fight the Ottawa traitors to the bitter end!

We need a REAL Canadian constitution with a section absolutely guaranteeing the birthrighht of Canadians to own and bear arms of all types. But, with the recent, current and projected trends in immigration, we are not likely to get it......

In some ways, I'd like to see the complete outlawing of guns and hunitng in Canada...

Then we could all just get on with it, and become outlaws, since there is no way I would stop shooting an d hunting, and I think I am not alone..

No, Gatehouse, you are NOT ALONE! There are an awful lot of us, as Ottawa well knows. That's why the Government-funded public school systems keep plugging away at our children, convincing them that guns/sport hunting is unnecessary and a "Bad Thing". Around here most of our hunters have traded/sold one sporting rifle to get one military rifle, and started training to AQT standards with the RWVA. Goto http://www.rwva.org for info. Jesus, thank you for your effort.

This is an armed American(?) group in Canada????

If, this is the case, it is hardly an appropriate situation in which to preserve Canadian freedoms and sovereignity. It is now as it has always been a fact of Canadian existance that the damyankee imperialists are the single, greatest threat to our nation and our freedom. I really have reservations about a group such as this "training" here in Canada.

kutenay, you STILL don't distinguish between "citizen" and "subject": there IS a difference, and you are certainly "free" to make your own choice.

And NO, the RWVA is in NO WAY subversive! Check out the site.

Grizz,
The sad fact is that shooters in the UK did try to protect their rights to own and shoot handguns. However, the final blow was delivered my a murdering peodophile who entered a primary school and coldly murdered a class of little children (barely more than babies) and their teacher. The UK is much smaller in size that the States and the effects felt by all are imeasurable.
Unfortunately every bloody politician and Govt agency jumped on the bandwagon for fear of being question about why he has possession of guns when so undesirable, how did he gain access to the kids and why his licence was recently renewed despite objections from the gun club to which he was ejected! Guns was just to good a target and the media frenzy only encouraged the politicians more.
How could we get our voices heard and have a reasoned debate when continually bombarded with images of tiny little white coffins, grieving parents and even images from the slaughter scene (the teachers body draped across the corpses of tiny infants that she was trying to protect with her own body)? Unfortunately our own NRA deserted us and we were forced to surrender out pistols. We would have gladly have surrendered each and every firearms if it was guaranteed that it would save a childs life or even reduce gun crime ........ sadly time has proven how wrong an assumption that to be.

I think it's mainly because we don't have very much trust in our government that we are leery of it, and find it a topic to be discussed often. God forbid we should ever take politicians at face value. They don't have much of a track record do they? Best wishes.

Cal - Montreal

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We do have a Political Forum and many of our Canuk brethern participate on it. Again, no criticism intended

I figure its mainly because the Political forum is a cess pit. Criticism intended.

For most of us its a waste of time to wade through all the BS in there.

If the Political topics were limiting the conversations about hunting in this forum, I'd suggest taking the political topics elsewhere. But, the fact is, the traffic is pretty slow here, and if we didn't talk politics at all the traffic would probably wither and die.

Canuck

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Originally posted by kutenay:
This is an armed American(?) group in Canada????

If, this is the case, it is hardly an appropriate situation in which to preserve Canadian freedoms and sovereignity. It is now as it has always been a fact of Canadian existance that the damyankee imperialists are the single, greatest threat to our nation and our freedom. I really have reservations about a group such as this "training" here in Canada.

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I often disgree with Kute but on this issue i am in agreement. After checking out the board i can say canada would be better off without this type of group. Hell the 'Muricans have to much influence onus already.