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making POI match POA
05 June 2007, 20:01
the_captainmaking POI match POA
I just picked up a new stainless Taurus Millennium Pro in .40 S&W. A couple days ago, I took it to the range and ran 80+ rounds of Winchester white box 165 gr through it. It ran great, with no failures or stoppages of any kind, so I have no complaints there. The problem is point of impact. This pistol has the Heinie straight-8 fixed sights on it. I line up the 3 dots and cover the target with the front dot and the impact is 5.5-6" low and 3" left @ 7yds. There wasn't any flinching. The last 20 rounds were carefully aimed fire to get a good group for measurements.
It's like the front sight is too high, since they are fixed sights. Will going to 180 gr bullets raise the POI a lot at this range? I think 6" low at 7 yards is going to be tough to make up, let alone any kind of accuracy at longer ranges. What kind of options do I have to make this thing shoot to POA? Are there shorter front sight blades available for the straight-8 set that put the dot closer to the slide? I like fixed sights on a carry gun. Other than this deal, I really like it.
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05 June 2007, 21:12
475GuyGet the shorter front sight, you'll be much happier and it's stress-free.
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They bid me take my place
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05 June 2007, 23:27
the_captainDo you have a source for different front sights?
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06 June 2007, 00:47
475GuyYou mentioned the sights were Heinie's. Go to them or that's parts catalog (Brownell's.)
Lo do they call to me,
They bid me take my place
among them in the Halls of Valhalla,
Where the brave may live forever.
06 June 2007, 01:37
the_captainI did check Heinie's web page, but didn't see any other front sight heights offered. Taurus doesn't offer any replacement sights as parts. I may try to just mill off a bit of the base of this sight so it sits closer to the slide when it's screwed back on. I'll know for sure once I pull the sight. Thanks.
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"I'd love to be the one to disappoint you when I don't fall down" --Fred Durst
Hey Captain
According to
HEININE'S WEB PAGE Taurus has a license to mfg his sights.
First thing I would do is to have someone else shoot your new gun.
If they get similar results I would call
TAURUS CUSTOMER SERVICE TEAMIf you send the gun back send a target with it.
Ask them to send a target back to you when they fix the sights
Good Luck
29 June 2007, 22:04
the_captainThanks for the hint cool. I haven't been back to the range for this one yet, so I'll keep your suggestion in mind.
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"I'd love to be the one to disappoint you when I don't fall down" --Fred Durst
30 June 2007, 21:13
243winxbquote:
Originally posted by the_captain:
I just picked up a new stainless Taurus Millennium Pro in .40 S&W. A couple days ago, I took it to the range and ran 80+ rounds of Winchester white box 165 gr through it. It ran great, with no failures or stoppages of any kind, so I have no complaints there. The problem is point of impact. This pistol has the Heinie straight-8 fixed sights on it. I line up the 3 dots and cover the target with the front dot and the impact is 5.5-6" low and 3" left @ 7yds. There wasn't any flinching. The last 20 rounds were carefully aimed fire to get a good group for measurements.
It's like the front sight is too high, since they are fixed sights. Will going to 180 gr bullets raise the POI a lot at this range? I think 6" low at 7 yards is going to be tough to make up, let alone any kind of accuracy at longer ranges. What kind of options do I have to make this thing shoot to POA? Are there shorter front sight blades available for the straight-8 set that put the dot closer to the slide? I like fixed sights on a carry gun. Other than this deal, I really like it.
6" low @ 7 yds??? thats a lot. Sights will not help. The gun needs to go back to the factory. A heavy bullet, slower bullet will bring the POI up some, but not that much.