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Here lately I hear gun store sales personel and a few others bad mouth Taurus pistols, saying they (Taurus) have had issues with inferior steel. I own 5 Taurus' myself and never had a problem with any of them. Not that I shoot them every day but shoot them enough.

Was wondering if anybody has actually seen a Taurus failure of any kind? Not hearsay but have actually seen a failure?


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That scuttlebutt has been around for years.
Inferior internal parts seems to be the major
complaint along with poor warranty service.

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Firearm Recalls & Warnings Index


SMITH & WESSON
MODEL 581, 586, 681, 686, or 581-1,
586-1, 681-1, 686-1 & 686CS-1, REVOLVERS

RECALL: Reports have been received from the field where the combination of a SMITH & WESSON L-FRAME 357 MAGNUM REVOLVER and some .357 Magnum ammunition has resulted in unacceptable cylinder binding. L-frame revolvers bearing model numbers:

581, 586, 681, 686, or 581-1, 586-1,
681-1, 686-1, 686CS-1

Cylinder binding can cause a failure to fire. Mishandling a revolver while freeing the cylinder can result in accidental discharge.

Cylinder binding can result from a number of causes, including characteristics of an individual revolver or the use of ammunition, which does not conform to industry pressure specifications or is particularly fast burning. Recent developments in ammunition manufacture emphasize the production of .357 Magnum ammunition with increased velocity and greater primer sensitivity.

Although there have been very few reported incidents of cylinder binding, in view of our concern for our customer's safety and the reliability of Smith & Wesson products in all circumstances, we issue the following warning:

In a situation where a failure to fire can be critical - such as law enforcement or personal protection - do not use .357 Magnum ammunition with an L-frame revolver bearing model numbers 581, 586, 681, 686 or 581-1, 586-1, 681-1, 686-1, 686CS-1 without an "M" over the model number until you have had the revolver modified.

Those who need to use their L-frame revolver under these conditions prior to modification can safely fire .38 Special caliber ammunition.

Smith & Wesson has developed a modification to improve existing L-frame revolvers. This improvement enables them to fire all .357 Magnum ammunition, without cylinder binding. Shipments of L-frame revolvers from our factory after August 21, 1987 already include this improvement.

You can check if your revolver includes this improvement by looking at the left side of the frame when the cylinder is fully open. If your revolver has been stamped either with a "2" or higher number after the basic three-digit model number or with an "M" above the model number, your revolver includes this improvement and does not need modification. If your revolver bears the model number 581, 586, 681, 686, or 581-1, 586-1, 681-1, 686-1, 686CS-1 without an "M" over the model number, it does not include this improvement and your should have your revolver modified.

Smith & Wesson will modify your L-frame revolver free of charge to eliminate the possibility of cylinder binding with .357 Magnum ammunition. Law enforcement agencies wishing to arrange for modification of L-frame revolvers should call 800-458-8469 between 9 A.M. and 6 P.M. Eastern time (MA residents call 413-734-8244). Other users should send their revolvers to a Smith & Wesson Warranty Service Center, specifying "L-frame improvement program" and enclosing their name and return address.

One of the modifications to improve the L-frame revolver is the installation of a new hammer nose. This obsoletes all old L-frame hammer noses (part numbers 4702 and 7513) and all old L-frame hammer assemblies (part numbers 3366, 3378, 3380, 3382, 3391, 4722, 4723, 4726 and 4728) in field parts inventories. Superseded parts should never be fitted into a modified revolver as this may result in malfunction. It is essential for safety that you return these obsolete L-frame hammer noses and obsolete L-frame hammer assemblies for a free exchange to:

Smith & Wesson
Service Department
2100 Roosevelt Avenue
Springfield, MA 01101

Do not return L-frame hammer-nose bushings from your spare parts inventory inasmuch as they are useable in J, N and K-frame revolvers, which are not included in this Product Warning.

We regret any inconvenience this may cause. Smith & Wesson's first concern is the safety of its products and the protection of its customers.

Source:

*

Shotgun News November 1, 1989; page ?
*

Guns & Ammo, December 1987; page 6






SMITH & WESSON
MODEL 39,
9MM LUGER CALIBER PISTOL

WARNING: An accidental discharge may occur when manually unloading a pistol if there is an obstruction of the ejection port.

When semiautomatic pistols are manually unloaded:

1. Engage the safety in the "safe" position.
2. Remove the magazine.
3. Point the muzzle in a safe direction.
4. Retract the slide without obstructing the ejection port.

If the primer of a cartridge comes in contact with internal parts, such as the tip of the ejector, an unintentional discharge may result. This can occur because the cartridge strikes an object which prevents ejection from the port during the extraction/ejection process.

Source:

* AFTE Journal, July 1980; Volume 12, Number 3:48-50




SMITH & WESSON
MODEL 659,
9MM LUGER CALIBER PISTOL

WARNING: An accidental discharge may occur when manually unloading a pistol if there is an obstruction of the ejection port.

When semiautomatic pistols are manually unloaded:

1. Engage the safety in the "safe" position.
2. Remove the magazine.
3. Point the muzzle in a safe direction.
4. Retract the slide without obstructing the ejection port.

If the primer of a cartridge comes in contact with internal parts of the pistol, such as the tip of the ejector, an unintentional discharge may result. This can occur because the cartridge strikes an object, which prevents ejection from the port during the extraction/ejection process.

Source:

* AFTE Journal, January 1994; Volume 26, Number 1:18-20




SMITH & WESSON
MODEL 439, 459, 469, 539, 559, 639, 659 & 669,
9MM CALIBER, PISTOLS

RECALL: This warning is issued for Smith & Wesson 9mm Semiautomatic Pistols which were shipped from the factory between May 1, 1983 and February 26, 1986. Included are Models 439, 459, 469, 539, 559, 639, 659 and 669 but only with serial numbers in the following ranges:

A745000-A865000 and TAA0001-TAL9999

The pistols within the serial number ranges listed above must be inspected for function from the half-cock notch. The safety mechanism will function in a perfectly satisfactory manner in many of these pistols, as well as in all pistols with serial numbers outside these ranges and in all pistols shipped from the factory after February 26, 1986.

Every one of these models bearing a serial number within the ranges listed above should be carefully inspected by the owner for this special condition. To determine if your pistol has this condition, do the following:

1. Point the muzzle in a safe direction.
2. Completely unload the pistol. Check both the magazine and chamber to assure they are empty of live rounds.
3. With your finger off the trigger, operate the manual safety with the unloaded pistol fully cocked and fully uncocked so that you can recognize how the manual safety looks and feels when it is fully in the safe position. The hammer will fall from the fully cocked position into the "at rest" position when the manual safety is moved down toward a safe position. When you are thoroughly familiar with placing the manual safety fully in the safe position, place it up in the fire position.
4. With the manual safety in the fire position, place the hammer in the half-cock notch:

For the Model 439, 459, 539, 559, 639 and 659, put the hammer of your pistol in the half-cock notch by pulling the hammer to the rear slowly until you hear the first click and then releasing the hammer so that it catches between the full cock and the "at rest" position.

For the Model 469 and 669, put the hammer of your pistol in the half-cock notch by inserting an empty magazine and slowly pulling the trigger until you hear the first click and then releasing the trigger so that the hammer catches between the full cock and the "at rest" position.

5. With the hammer in the half-cock notch, push the manual safety down toward the safe position. If you can push the manual safety fully into the safe position and the hammer falls into the "at rest" position, your pistol does not require modification. If you cannot push the manual safety fully into the safe position or the hammer does not fall into the "at rest" position, your pistol is being recalled for modification free of charge.

Recalled pistols should be sent promptly to a Smith & Wesson Warranty Service Center for modification. Call 800-633-0164 for the name and location of the one nearest you or for answers to nay questions you may have. Law enforcement departments who have pistols, which exhibit this condition, should contact the Smith & Wesson Service Department to arrange for modifying the pistols.

Source:

* AFTE Journal, July 1986; Volume 18, Number 3:68
* AFTE Journal, January 1987; Volume 19, Number 1:36
* American Rifleman, July 1986; page 12
* Shooting Times, August 1986; page 23
* California Department of Justice Firearms Safety Note 86-2




SMITH & WESSON
MODEL 1026, 1076, 4526, 4536, 4576, 5924,
5926, 6924 and 6926 PISTOLS

RECALL: Models affected have frame mounted decocking levers.

Other model Smith & Wesson pistols are not affected by this advisory.

We have determined that it is possible for a Smith & Wesson Third Generation 9mm, 10mm and .45 ACP pistol with a frame-mounted decocking lever to malfunction so as to make the pistol inoperable.

In order to safeguard our customers from the possibility of such a malfunction, Smith & Wesson will inspect and, if necessary, modify these pistols free of charge. Owners of Smith & Wesson 9mm, 10mm and .45 ACP pistols featuring a frame-mounted decocking lever with model numbers listed above, and which do not have two dots stamped on the frame underneath the decocking lever (when the lever is depressed) should send their pistols and accompanying magazines to Smith & Wesson for a no-charge inspection.

Please send your pistol and magazines to:

Smith & Wesson
2100 Roosevelt Avenue
Springfield, MA 01102-2208
Attn: Service Department-DL

If you have any questions regarding this product advisory, please call 800-331-0852 ext. 211.

While we have your pistol, our armorers will stamp your pistol with two dots under the decocking lever, and give your pistol an ultrasonic cleaning and full lubrication (a $25.00 value) at no charge.

We apologize for this inconvenience. Smith & Wesson remains committed to building the safest, most reliable and finest-performing firearms possible.

Source:

* AFTE Journal, October 1991; Volume 23, Number 4:939
* American Rifleman, October 1991; page ?
* Guns & Ammo, October 1991; page 112
* Shooting Times, November 1991; page 95
* American Handgunner, November/December 1991; page 128




SMITH & WESSON
MODEL 3904, 3906, 3913, 3913LS, 3914, 3914LS,
1006, 1066,
4506, 4516, 4516-1,
5903, 5904, 5906, 5946,
6904, 6906 & 6946, PISTOLS

RECALL: Smith & Wesson has shipped over 300,000 Third generation Pistols. We have had a very small number or reports where a dropped pistol resulted in a broken grip resulting in a failure to fire by releasing mainspring tension. Resultant testing and review have shown that a pistol dropped at a specific angle can cause a fracture of the grip.

As a result of these occurrences and our testing, we have made a change in the grip material to a thermoplastic alloy of increased durability. This new material, which is now being used on all current production models, can be identified by a dimple on the bottom of the grip, next to the large opening. Additionally, the blue product box has a green dot sticker on the label end.

We believe it unlikely that you will experience any problem with your original grips. However, in order to safeguard our customers from the possibility of such a malfunction, we will make available, free of charge, an easily installed replacement grip. Please inspect your pistol and if you have a model listed below that does not have a small dimple next to the large opening, please write us including your model and serial number or call 800-338-2466. If you prefer, you can send your pistol to a Smith & Wesson Warranty Station where we will replace the grip for you.

Models Affected:

3904, 3906, 3913, 3913LS, 3914, 3914LS, 1006, 1066, 4506, 4516, 4516-1, 5903, 5904, 5906, 5946, 6904, 6906 & 6946

Smith & Wesson's development process is a continuing one. We are constantly striving both to develop new products and improve existing products. We are committed to building the safest, most reliable, finest performing firearms possible.

Source:

*

American Rifleman, August 1990; page 20
*

AFTE Journal, October 1990; Volume 22, Number 4:452
*

Petersen's Handguns, October 1990; page 25
*

American Rifleman, October 1991; page ?
*

Guns & Ammo, September 1990; page 108




SMITH & WESSON
MODEL 4506, 4516, 645 & 745,
45 AUTO CALIBER, PISTOL MAGAZINES

RECALL: It has come to our attention that a small number of users have experienced cartridge-feeding problems with Smith & Wesson magazines for .45 ACP pistols. This can result in a failure to feed or jamming, and thereby a failure to fire. The cause of this problem is the magazine.

This recall applies to two types of MAGAZINES ONLY:

Magazines manufactured by Smith & Wesson for Pistol Model number 4516.

Smith & Wesson requests that you inspect your caliber .45 ACP magazine to determine if it is subject to this recall. To determine if your magazine is affected, follow these simple inspection procedures:

1. Inspection Procedure for Magazines for Model 4506, 645, or 745 Pistols.

1. Remove the magazine from the firearm following the procedure set forth in the instruction manual. Before proceeding further, you must ensure that the pistol and magazine are unloaded.
2. Examine the butt plate of the magazine. If the butt plate is not molded plastic with a crescent- shaped cutout molded into the bottom near the front edge, then the magazine is not affected by this recall. If the butt plate is molded plastic and contains a crescent-shaped cutout molded into the bottom near the front edge, proceed directly to the next step.
3. Carefully inspect each broad flat side of the magazine near the plastic butt plate. If a punch mark is present above the butt plate on either side of the magazine, your magazine is not affected by this recall.
4. If, however, a punch mark is not present on the right side at the bottom, your magazine must be replaced.

2. Inspection Procedure for Magazines for Model 4516 and 4516-I Pistols.

Any magazines shipped by Smith & Wesson with model 4516-I pistols are already inscribed for use in that particular model and are NOT subject to this recall.

1. Remove the magazine from the firearm following the procedures set forth in the instruction manual. Before proceeding further, you must ensure that the pistol and magazine are unloaded.
2. Inspect each broad flat side of the magazine. If neither side is inscribed "For S&W M4516 only" or "For S&W M4516-I only"; your magazine must be replaced.

To ensure reliable functioning of your Model 4516 or 4516-I pistol, the model number marked on a 7-round .45 ACP magazine must be identical to all digits of the model number stamped on your pistol. Do not use a Smith & Wesson magazine marked "M4516 only" in a pistol stamped "MOD 4516".

WARNING: DO NOT USE ONE OF THESE RECALLED MAGAZINES IN YOUR PISTOL FOR A SITUATION WHERE A FAILURE TO FIRE CAN BE CRITICAL, SUCH AS FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT OR PERSONAL PROTECTION. RETURN AFFECTED MAGAZINES TO SMITH & WESSON FOR FREE REPLACEMENT.

To receive a free replacement magazine under this recall, send the magazine to be replaced directly to:

Smith & Wesson
Attention: Magazine Exchange
2100 Roosevelt Avenue
Springfield, MA 01102

Or call toll-free 800-458-8469 between 8 AM and 5 PM EST. You will need to provide the customer service representative with the model and serial numbers of your pistol. We ask that all affected magazines be returned to Smith & Wesson in trade for the new magazines.

This toll-free number can also be called if you have any questions concerning this recall.

We regret any inconvenience this may cause; however, this action was dictated by our concern for the customer's safety and the reliability of Smith & Wesson products in all circumstances.

Source:

*

AFTE Journal, April 1990, Volume 22, Number 2:227
*

American Rifleman, January 1990, page ?
*

American Rifleman, February 1990, page 4
*

Guns & Ammo, January 1990, page 93
*

Guns & Ammo, February 1990, page 7
*

Shooting Industry, January 1990; page 18
*

American Firearms Industry, December 1989; page 13
*

California Department of Justice Firearms Safety Note 89-4




SMITH & WESSON
MODEL SIGMA,
40 S&W CALIBER PISTOL

WARNING: Three department issue SMITH & WESSON, MODEL SIGMA, 40 CALIBER PISTOLS EXPERIENCED INTERNAL PART FAILURES PREVENTING THE PISTOLS FROM FIRING.

These pistols had trigger return springs, slide stop springs or sear driver pins break. When these parts fail the pistol becomes inoperable.

Sgt. Ernie Didier
Glendora Police Department
150 S. Glendora Avenue
Glendora, CA 91741
(626) 914-8250

Source:

* Glendora, CA PD, Teletype Message, December 14, 1998




SMITH & WESSON
MODEL 916-T SHOTG

RECALL: Smith & Wesson said last week it was recalling all barrels for a 12-gauge, interchangeable barrel shotgun because they are defective and potentially hazardous.

"Under certain conditions the barrels rupture, but no one has been injured. None of the barrels exploded," said company spokesman William Clede.

"We learned about the problem from reports in the field," he said.

Owners of the 916T Model, which has been manufactured for several years, should not fire the takedown type shotgun with its existing barrels, he said. Barrels should be removed from guns and shipped to the factory in Springfield for replacement.

The company, a major national gun manufacturer, declined to say immediately how many guns were covered by the recall order.

The company will replace barrels for its 916T Model with new barrels designed not to rupture, Clede said. The recall does not cover the Model 916 shotgun, which has a fixed barrel.

The newly designed replacement barrels for the 916T will be identified by the letter "O" on the top of the barrel near the breech end, Clede said.

Contact:

F.J. Longtin
Service Manager
Smith & Wesson
2100 Roosevelt Avenue
Springfield, MA 01101

Source:

* American Rifleman, September 1979; page 74
* American Rifleman, February 1979; page 85
* Crime Control Digest, November 20, 1978; page 6




TANFOGLIO GIUSEPPE/FIREARMS IMPORT AND EXPORT (F.I.E.) CORP.
MODEL TITAN,
.25 CALIBER, SEMIAUTOMATIC PISTOL

WARNING: The Tanfoglio/F.I.E. Corp., Model Titan .25 caliber semiautomatic pistol has the potential for ACCIDENTAL DISCHARGE.

The owner of one of these pistols was paralyzed when the pistol allegedly fell on its "uncocked" hammer causing discharge, striking him in the neck.

During a subsequent civil suit against the manufacturer and the importer, the U.S. District Court awarded the gun owner $10.8 million stating, "Gun manufacturers have an obligation to reasonably anticipate that owners of guns, will, at some point, unexpectedly drop them. The manufacture of the pistol with a defective firing pin made it virtually certain that the gun would fire if dropped or bumped on its hammer."

Source:

* Orange County Register, March 1999
* Jackson v. F.I.E. Corp., et al, U.S. District Ct., Eastern District of LA, New Orleans, LA, # 95-2389 S (12/17/98)




TAURUS,
MODEL 74,
32 SMITH & WESSON CALIBER, REVOLVER

MODEL 80, 82, 84 & 86,
38 SPECIAL CALIBER, REVOLVER

MODEL 94 & 96,
22 LONG RIFLE CALIBER, REVOLVER

WARNING: The listed Taurus revolvers, when dropped from a height of three feet on the hammer may discharge.
Revolvers Serial Numbers BELOW the following:
Model 74, Blue 701,219
Model 74, Nickel 699,118
Model 80, 3" Blue 1,000,225 (not including 977,537 through 977,582)
Model 80, 3" Nickel 977,656, and 987,259 to 987,358
Model 80, 4" Blue 1,035,178
Model 80, 4" Nickel 1,001,684
Model 82, 3" Blue 996,964
Model 82, 3" Nickel 1,014,120
Model 82, 4" Blue 1,025,816
Model 82,4" Nickel 1,034,375
Model 84, Blue 1,026,497
Model 84, Nickel 1,009,613 through 1,009,655
& 1,009,626 through 1,009,655
Model 86 1,011,470
Model 94, Blue 94,170
Model 94, Nickel 94,206
Model 96 97,336

Source:

* Shooting Industry, June 1977; page ?
* AFTE Journal, April, 1978; Volume 10, Number 2:33-38




"UNCLE MIKE'S" BRAND GRIPS
for TAURUS, MODEL PT92 & PT99,
9MM CALIBER, PISTOLS

RECALL: Michaels of Oregon is recalling its "Uncle Mike's" Custom Grade Molded Handgun Grips. Set No. 59507, for Taurus PT92 ad PT 99 semi-automatic 9mm pistols. It has come to our attention that the trigger bars of some of these pistols can come away from the frame when the pistols are equipped with our grips. A pistol in this condition could accidentally discharge, causing possible injury or death to the shooter or bystander.

To ensure the safety of our customers and protect them from the possibility of such a malfunction, we are making available replacement grips. The new grips can be identified by the two cylindrical nubs located on the inside top of the right grip and the "A" stamped between them. Please inspect your grips and if you do not have the new grips, mail us your old ones for replacement to the address below. There is no charge for the exchange and we will reimburse you for postage costs.

"Uncle Mike's" is committed to giving its customers high quality, safe products. We apologize for this inconvenience to our customers.

Uncle Mike's
P.O. Box 13010
Portland, OR 97213
(503) 255-5890

Source:

* Shooting Times, December 1990; page 77
* Gunweek, November 2, 1990; page ?




THOMPSON CENTER
MODEL RENEGADE, RIFLES

WARNING: These rifles have the potential for an accidental discharge if the hammer is not in the safety notch position.

Rifles manufactured prior to the mid-1970's may accidentally discharge. When the hammer is pulled back, prior to reaching the full cock position, a second click is heard. After the second click and prior to reaching full cock, the hammer can be released and will fall, bypassing the safety notch and firing the rifle.

Source:

* AFTE Journal, April 1983; Volume 15, Number 2:15-16




VEKTOR
MODEL CP1,
9MM CALIBER, SEMI AUTOMATIC PISTOL

WARNING: The Vektor CP1 pistol may accidentally fire when the loaded firearm is dropped or bumped. DO NOT LOAD OR USE THIS PISTOL. To render this pistol safe remove the magazine from the firearm, ensure no cartridge is in the chamber, engage the safety and remove the slide from the frame. No authorized solution to make this pistol safe is currently available. For further information contact:

Vektor, a division of Denel
P.O. Box 5445
Pretoria, 0001
Republic of South Africa
P: 011-27 (12) 620-2616
F: 011-27 (12) 664-1905

Source:

* American Firearms, November/December 2000; Volume 28, Number 11:12
* American Handgunner, January//February 2001; Volume 29, Number 1:114
* American Rifleman, October 2000; page 25
* Shooting Industry, September 2000; page 26
* Company Notice June 24, 2002

Added 7/08/01
Revised 5/25/03





WALTHER
MODEL PP,
32 AUTO CALIBER, PISTOL - FULL AUTO

WARNING: These pistols are subject to unintentional and uncontrollable full automatic fire if the hammer block (automatic safety) plunger and spring, along with the hammer release (de-cocking lever) are removed. When the slide is drawn to the rear and released, the acceleration of the slide by the recoil spring, and the sudden stop as the slide goes into battery causes the hammer to fall. This results in the pistol discharging in a full automatic mode.

Carl Walther GmbH Sportwaffen
Karlstrasse 33,
D-89073 Ulm, Germany

Source:

* AFTE Journal, January 1996; Volume 28, Number 1:48-54




WALTHER
MODEL P-38,
9MM LUGER CALIBER, PISTOLS

WARNING: Converted to FULLY-AUTOMATIC FIRING

Officers should exercise extreme caution with any Walther P38 type pistol. Law enforcement agencies at the Federal, State and local levels plus branches of the U.S. and Canadian military service have encountered Walther P38s having a potentially hazardous conversion.

The conversion consists of a modified firing pin, which is activated by placing the safety in the safe position. When the safety is placed in this position, the weapon will immediately fire without the trigger being pulled if a round is in the chamber. If the safety is engaged with the slide open the weapon will fire in the full automatic mode as soon as the slide is closed. The full automatic is activated by the safety alone. The conversion can be accomplished on post-war P38s made by Walther or Manurhin, manufactured since April 1940. Full automatic fire may be accomplished by changing the thumb safety lever.

There is no field test, which can be performed to determine if a P38 has this conversion installed and there are no visible modifications. Consequently, any Walther P38 type pistols encountered should be handled in the following manner:

1. Do not touch the trigger or safety
2. Remove the magazine
3. Place the safety in the fire position
4. Open the slide and ensure that the chamber is empty

Source:

* California Department of Justice Safety Note 86-1
* Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco & Firearms, National Broadcast September 1985
* Florida Department of Law Enforcement Bulletin, February 1986
* New York State Police Academy Training Bulletin, Number 86-1, May 1986




WEATHERBY INC. Added 5/27/02
MODEL VANGUARD BOLT ACTION, RIFLES

SERIAL # 00001 - 03810; V0001 - V80966; VX00001 - VX44065; VS0001 - VS23699; VL00001 – VL46984; W0001 – W0099; NV0001 – NV0099
RECALL: If you have a Weatherby, model Vanguard bolt action rifle with a serial number from one of the serial numbers referred to above: USE OF THIS RIFLE MAY RESULT IN AN ACCIDENT AND SEVERE INJURY. STOP USE OF THIS RIFLE IMMEDIATELY and visit the Weatherby website at www.weatherby.com or call Weatherby at 1 (800) 227-2018 to receive a Bolt Return Kit.

Weatherby Inc. of Atascadero, California, is performing a safety upgrade on all Vanguard by Weatherby brand rifles manufactured between the years 1970 to 1993. The affected rifles bear serial numbers from one of the following series on the receiver:

*

00001 – 03810
*

NV001 - NV0099
*

V00001 - V80966
*

VL00001 - VL46984
*

VS00001 - VS23699
*

VX00001 - VX44065
*

W001 - W0099

The safety upgrade will prevent miss-assembly of the bolt, which might occur on the affected rifles. Such miss-assembly might contribute to a hazardous condition in which the rifle can be accidentally discharged without the bolt being fully engaged, causing severe injury. Only the bolt is being upgraded. Bolts will be returned to the owners following the upgrade.

Weatherby
3100 El Camino Real
Atascadero, California 93422
(800) 227-2018 Ext. 109

Source:

*
Company Notice May 25, 2001
*
Shooting Sports Industry, July/August 2001; Volume 19 Number 4:83
*
American Rifleman, September 2001; page 94
*

SHOT Business, July/August 2002; page 9


Added 5/27/02
Revised 5/25/03






WINCHESTER/U.S. Repeating Arms Company
MODEL 70, Bolt Action Rifles

Calibers:

*

270 Winchester,
*

30-06 Springfield,
*

7mm Remington Magnum,
*

300 Winchester Magnum

RECALL: The Winchester model 70 bolt action rifles in 270 Winchester, 30-06 Springfield, 7mm Remington Magnum and 300 Winchester Magnum with serial numbers greater than G2235000 with BLACK COMPOSITE/SYNTHETIC STOCKS may have a potential safety problem in the front sling swivel stud. There is a possibility that under heavy weight the swivel stud can pull loose from the composite stock, causing the rifle to fall from the shoulder, which is a dangerous condition.

Sellers and owners of the affected model 70 rifles are being warned to immediately discontinue any further use until the front swivel stud has been replaced. Many of the affected rifles were sold at Wal-Mart Discount Stores.

Source:

*

Company Notice, January 2000




WINCHESTER
MODEL 490,
.22 CALIBER, SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLES

RECALL: These rifles are the subject of unintentional discharge problems. Redesigned parts are available by contacting Winchester.

Winchester Firearms (801) 876-3440
U.S. Repeating Arms Company, Inc.
275 Winchester Avenue,
Morgan, UT 84050

Source:

* AFTE Journal, March 1976; Volume 8, Number 1:28

Corrected 5/25/03




WINCHESTER
MODEL 100, RIFLES AND CARBINES

WARNING: An accidental discharge may occur BEFORE the action is locked.

These rifles and carbines may have firing pins that can break due to metal fatigue. When lodged in the breech face they can cause discharge before the action is closed.

Winchester Firearms Notice
Attn: Product Service Department
P.O. Box 10
Cottage Hills, Il 62018
(800) 852-5734

Source:

* AFTE Journal, October 1990; Volume 22, Number 4:452

Corrected 5/25/03




WINCHESTER
MODEL 1001, SHOTGUNS

RECALL: U.S. Repeating Arms Co. has announced an immediate recall of all Winchester Model 1001 over/under shotguns sold since the introduction in November 1992. No other Winchester shotguns, past or present, are involved in this recall.

U.S. Repeating Arms Co. officials report that continual and extensive shooting tests have revealed a safety problem in some guns when subjected to higher than normal pressures. Screening and testing of all Model 1001 shotguns are required. Consequently, U.S. Repeating Arms Co. warns all Model 1001 owners to immediately discontinue any further shooting of its 1001 shotguns regardless of the type of ammunition used.

To return a shotgun, call U.S. Repeating Arms' Model 1001 Recall Department immediately at 800-945-5372. Arrangements for returning the shotguns will be made at the time. Special shipping boxes preaddressed shipping labels, and easy instructions will be provided. All shipping costs will be prepaid or quickly reimbursed by U.S. Repeating Arms Co.

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* Guns & Ammo, January 1995; page 76
* Shooting Times, January 1995; page 8
* Shooting Industry, November 1994; page ?

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Hardware => HandGuns => Topic started by: LittleLebowski on November 02, 2009, 01:28:48 PM

Title: Taurus lawsuit
Post by: LittleLebowski on November 02, 2009, 01:28:48 PM
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A friend in the firearms industry had already told me these little guns failed the CA DOJ drop test a few years back. The firing pin block mechanism is apparently one that can fail. This summary of a trial verdict this week in NE AL was forwarded to me by a friend in the legal community this a.m.

Thanks to everyone for the congratulations. I've been asked to give a short summary of the facts.

Plaintiff is a 28 year old business owner in northwest Etowah County. He was leaving his home, headed to his store when he unintentionally dropped his handgun. The handgun is a Taurus PT111 9mm Millennium, which he bought in 2004. He had the handgun loaded, with a round in the chamber, with the manual safety in the "on" position. It was also secured in a nylon holster with a strap. When the handgun fell, it struck the concrete floor with the butt of the gun. It discharged, striking the plaintiff in the upper thigh. The projectile travelled in an upward direction, through his abdomen and into his left lung. He suffered serious internal injuries, which included losing his spleen. The first police officer on the scene found the handgun with the manual safety in the "on" position. Once the handgun was photographed and taken into evidence, a fired (spent) shell casing was found in the chamber of the weapon. This was crucial evidence, because the manual safety on this model handgun locks the slide and prevents the rearward movement of the slide if the handgun discharges. This helped prove to the jury that the manual safety was in fact on at the time of the unintended discharge. Also, the manual safety has absolutely nothing to do with preventing an unintended discharge from dropping (if you can believe that). The defect in the handgun is the internal striker block (internal firing pin block). This is supposed to prevent the movement of the striker (firing pin) if the gun is exposed to a sharp impact (such as a drop). We actually were able to record on video a PT111 firing a primed case when dropped in a similar manner to our facts. The jury found that a defect existed and returned a 500k compensatory verdict and a 750k punitive verdict. Plaintiff had roughly 71k in specials.

There are still over 100k of these guns on the market. It will happen again if Taurus chooses not to do a recall. Taurus PT140's and PT145's have the same internal striker block mechanism. It is my belief that they will also discharge if dropped.

Thanks for the inquiry.

M. Todd Wheeles, Esq.
Morris, Haynes & Hornsby
http://www.mhhlaw.net/ (http://www.mhhlaw.net/)
 
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rae, 8/1/10

I bought a new Taurus PT-99, a 9mm automatic in the late 90's. It had an adjustable sight whose roll pin kept walking out while firing. This really messed up my IPSC times when the rear sight fell onto the ground and I had to look around for it.

As well at about a three thousand round count the locking block broke, holding the slide just out of battery. It was a real bear to get the pieces aligned properly so I could disassemble the pistol. I called Taurus and they said to mail in the broken locking block and they would mail me a new one. Three months later I had not heard from them so I called their number. I couldn't get anyone to answer the phone till the third day when I got a helpful gentleman who looked up my order on his computer. They had mailed my locking block to the wrong state. He reshipped it out to me and it seems to work OK now. The fit and finish just seems a bit shoddy. If I had it to do over again I would just get a used Beretta 92.

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I had the trigger bar spring of my PT945 break. It goes in under the right grip panel. A 5 second repair if I had another spring.

But Taurus insisted I send the whole pistol off to South Florida because that spring is part of the trigger group and their lawyers got angina thinking anyone messing with triggers is bound to sue them.

So they fixed it under their lifetime warranty, although the shipping and insurance cost me about 10,000 times what the spring cost.

When I got it back, there was a note inside the package chastising me shame for using reloaded ammo. Did they do a gunpowder residue test? Or were they just fishing?
 
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i have a tarus 44 mag that seems to skip the cylinder sometimes if you pull the trigger real fast,
worst problem was a new smith 586 in 357 using smith ammo-- bbl blew right out of the frame into the mud, it had missed the heat treating process at the factory they replaced it.
had a new ruger security 6 357 that wouldnt shoot groups had a cracked forcing cone , they repaired it
sig saur minor problems
1911 colts lets not go there
read some of the tests in gun test magazine
i dont plan on selling the tarus i have now


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Thanks for the input guys!


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Cylinder binding can cause a failure to fire. Mishandling a revolver while freeing the cylinder can result in accidental discharge.

I have had this happen more than once. I use both nickel-plated and unplated brass in my Model 608. I have not shot the thing in so long, I forget which type causes the problem. What seems to happen is that the cartridges back out when they are in that area on the left side of the gun where there is a bit of a funnel or guide to move the rounds forward into the cylinder as it rotates. One of the cartridge types has a thicker rim than the other. I think the thicker rim is what's causing the problem. What happens is the cylinder will not fully advance to the next round. The trigger locks up and the hammer stays back. I have to very carefully manipulate the cylinder to advance it so I can drop the hammer. This is when it can fire-- and has. It scared the chili out of me when it did it the first time. I was in now way expecting it. I have pretty much given up shooting the gun since November of 2007 because of this problem.
 
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I guess it is safe to assume they all have made junk...........except for Glocks?


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I've seen about the same number of complaints about Taurus as anyone else.


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Interesting responses.....my first comment is guns are meant to be shot and not to be dropped.

Dropping a gun is the result of negligent handling of same.

One who drops a gun and is injured thereby has no basis for suit in my opinion. But leave it to the lawyers and judges to connive to get a ruling that since a gun is a dangerous instrument the defense of contributory negligence or even of assumption of risk does not apply.

I am a retired litigation lawyer and have taken exception to the gun suits from the get go. It is the same legal insanity that caused so much damage to firearms manufacturers, increasing the cost to all of us, and the invention of the transfer bar.

What was transfered was the the elimination of personal responsibility.

Repeat...guns are made to be shot, not dropped.

Now as to Taurus. I owned one of the first Raging Bulls and found it to be a reliable and well constructed revolver. I would not hesitate to buy a Taurus.


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The comments that I've heard about them come from the counter guys at the local gun shops. They are saying that they return more Taurus guns than any other.

We really don't know if those are major oops or just customer disappointments. That said, I'm not a buyer.
 
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Could be that they get more of a mark up on the more expensive guns. I think a lot of the anti-Taurus sentiment is based on the guns they used to make in the 70's and 80's.

I've seen people claim how great one gun is and how bad another gun is and they're made in the same factory in Europe. There is a lot of "faith" put in brand names without thinking where the parts are made and who has the license for the name.


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After about 2 years & 2000+ rounds, my PT-1911 hasn't skipped a beat. No jams, no stove pipes & works like a good design should. I would buy another Taurus, sure.


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Many serious competitors will shoot 2,000 rounds in a month. I personally shoot about 1,000 rounds a month. At 2,000 rounds a good handgun is just getting broke in good.


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Yes. Repeated fractures of the firing pin block lever, rendering pistol inert. Never had problems with FN pistol, S&W revolvers, Ruger MK II or Beretta 70.
 
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