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looking at a Ruger 1972 Blackhawk brass frame 3 screw in 45 colt. hes asking $800. offering $500. good deal? shows holster wear, claims not shot much (uh huh). nice custom wood grips. si/no?

From a little research I have done, he doesn't seem out of line on his price. In "like new" condition they are pricing them at nearly double his asking price. In the end it is only worth what somebody is willing to pay for it.

picking it up friday. maybe it'll appreciate a little next few years. need to do some research once i get it.

Good for you John. I hope you enjoy it. And just to make you feel better + more justified, remember that quality guns ALWAYS appreciate in value.

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remember that quality guns ALWAYS appreciate in value.

Might take longer then you live if one pays to much.

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Originally posted by NormanConquest:
Good for you John. I hope you enjoy it. And just to make you feel better + more justified, remember that quality guns ALWAYS appreciate in value.

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Originally posted by p dog shooter:

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remember that quality guns ALWAYS appreciate in value.

Might take longer then you live if one pays to much.

then again maybe no. talked to a ruger collector. said the brass frame is worth more than i paid for the whole pistol.

Sounds like you made a good buy.

My statement still stands I wasn't talking about your particular handgun

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Originally posted by p dog shooter:
Sounds like you made a good buy.

My statement still stands I wasn't talking about your particular handgun

yea, the guy said i got a bargain basement price. there were only 407 of them made. since theres considerable holster wear i'm going to use it as a shooter. he also said if i reblue it the value will increase a lot. i have seen a few reblues on older guns where the corners are worn off from the buffing wheel etc. and worse. not gonna chance it, plus i WANT to shoot it. love that caliber and the old SAs.

Nice find John. I have only seen a couple of brass frame Rugers over the course of my life.

Depends on who you sell it too as well. A gunstore won't give you near what you could get from an individual for good reason, they are in business _ need to make a profit. A few years a friend was working at McBrides gun store in Austin + a guy came in with a Ruger collection that he had inherited + asked what they would give him for the lot. Joe gave him a price, the guy baulked + said, I looked them up + they're with more than that. Joe says, yes, they sure are but that's what I'm willing to give you. The guy took it; Joe got on the phone to Hank Williams Jr. (a big Ruger collector) + within a few hours Hank was there + bought the lot. Joe made a good profit but then that's the name of the game.

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Depends on who you sell it too as well. A gunstore won't give you near what you could get from an individual for good reason, they are in business _ need to make a profit. A few years a friend was working at McBrides gun store in Austin + a guy came in with a Ruger collection that he had inherited + asked what they would give him for the lot. Joe gave him a price, the guy baulked + said, I looked them up + they're with more than that. Joe says, yes, they sure are but that's what I'm willing to give you. The guy took it; Joe got on the phone to Hank Williams Jr. (a big Ruger collector) + within a few hours Hank was there + bought the lot. Joe made a good profit but then that's the name of the game.

Making money is in the buy not the sell.

Buy right, then sell right, one can make money.

and..........only VERY faint drag marks on the cylinder and the bore is mirror bright, no pits, sharp rifling. didn't expect that.

Nice grab!

thanks
took it out for a spin this morning. sat in mule as knee not good yet and popped off 40 rds 255 gr keith over 7 gr unique at clangers 32 yds away. very surprised at accuracy and pleased with smooth action. eyes started to give out so called it a day. still can't believed how clean bbl and cyl is. little hoppes and eds red and cleaner than 99% of my other pistols are. no leading. yea

John, sent you a P.M. on brass. BTW, do you cast?

yes. i have a master caster set up for 45 colt and 30 cal and mucho plumo
and several handle molds i probably need to sell someday
and a magma luber/sizer

i was told, as stated above that only 407 of these were made. i called ruger yesterday and the lady that sent me the authenticy letter(sp) refused to confirm that. she went from
we don't have that information to
we don't give out infor like that to
theres no way to tell
if anyone has a ruger book or? and can confirm how many were made i'd appreciate it
also....i text the guy i bought it from to tell him the letter from ruger stated it to be exactly as advertised and thanked him. he told me he since found out its worth 2kish and up. yes, i know what everyones gonna say about buying and selling. i'm just repeating what he said. i told him i'd start the bidding at 10k. he laughed and said no he was happy to sell it to someone that would use it as intended and not be a safe queen as it was when he had it. i have an El Paso Saddlery holster on the way in.

Those are rarer variations for sure. If you paid $500 vs $800, then even better. As p dog said, making money is in the buy, not the sell. At $500 you're ahead of the game by quite a bit, so you'll surely get that back even after using it and taking care of it.

I really don't see many Old Model Blackhawks in my area, let alone brass frames. Back when I picked up an Old Model 357 all I knew was that the flattop models were a premium, and the brass frames even much more. Mine is a 1960s unused(?) standard model.

I've kept it as such for nearly 20 years, but when I see what new Rugers sell for I think I'd rather use mine and enjoy it. To me, there's no point in purchasing another new or old model for more when I already have one waiting to be enjoyed.

Anyways, you're encouraging me to use mine and enjoy it like you did yours!

i finally had it verified today by a ruger collector that specializes in 195?-1973 BH revolvers. by serial # and letter from ruger and pics he stated that 405 were made most shipped oct 72. if it had been with a 71/2" bbl only 163 i think were made in 45 colt brass frame. i don't know how my phone/text # got out but someone texted me wanting to talk about a $2000-$2500 figure. i think it was the guy that sold it to me giving it out. i want to play with it a bit b4 i consider offers if at all.

i also have a ruger SBH flattop 44 mag made 1967. 300&^ serial #. its claimed to have 12 rds shot thru it then sold. no drag marks on cyl at all. finish is deep blue and shines. that one is a safe queen. 71/2" bbl. beautiful gun! i am not a collector at all but just happened on these 2.

Here is mine, came from an estate



don't think the box is correct for the pistol. Might be a later box.

This one, the cylinder is recessed for the case heads.



I consider this an unnecessary bother. The probability of a case head bursting is small. Recessed case heads make it difficult to verify if the cylinder is loaded, and the recesses are hard to clean. My 1983 stainless Ruger Super Blackhawk does not have this feature.




neither does this pistol




As a safety warning, for three screw Rugers, do not lower the hammer on a loaded chamber. These pre transfer bar mechanisms will ignite the cartridge if the hammer is hit hard enough. I have come across stories of this happening as far back as the 1960's. This is the reason Ruger redesigned the mechanism. This pistol is safe to holster hammer down on an empty chamber.

I have a buddy that has another of the 1st year Blackhawks in 45 L.C. When my house was burglarized in the late 70s + all my guns were stolen, he loaned me his to do a turkey shoot. It was right on the mark. But then, I have had several Super Blackhawks + they were all on the nut as well. For that matter, I had a Keith #5 built using the super Blackhawk frame.

SLAMFIRE..........i had the ruger researcher tell me that as per my 67 RSB, at least 2 of them in 67 were mismarked by a ruger employee that grabbed the wrong roll marker off the shelf, and are marked RUGER BLACKHAWK instead of RUGER SUPER BLACKHAWK. they are ser#s 30024 and 30080
he also said that on the ruger site many of the look up #s give the wrong dates of mfg etc. said they have a research and archive dept but not a real good one. also books like DOUGANS contain errors and are not accurate w/out the addendums added later. for instance he switched the number of 45 colt 4 4/8" and 7 1/2" bbl brass frames made 72. was an error on his part, later corrected.