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There was no comment that TWO hands were used ! The left hand , in pocket or in front of trousers pushes the gun up so the right hand can get a good grip !!...In IPCS matches I [not the fastest shooter !] was able to draw from holster ,fire and hit two rounds ,at a target 6' away ! All it takes is some practice ! | |||
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Yep, all it takes is practice. You can actually draw a weapon & fire on someone who already has their weapon out & covering you. It takes the avg. person 1/2-3/4 of a sec. to recognize a threat & react. In that time, at close range, you can pretty easily draw a weapon from a holster & fire a killing shot. That guy is doing it from his waistband, scary. LIFE IS NOT A SPECTATOR'S SPORT! | |||
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Fred, I am not sure I agree with you. I thought average response time was around 2/10 ths of a second. That is what mine is, and that is what is generally talked about by Matt Burkett et al. I have proved mine by using a PACT timer ie. set the timer for random, stand with gun, safety off, finger on trigger pointe down range. When the timer beeps, press the trigger. This is the time to react AND perform a minimal operation (press the trigger). BTW this exercise is one recommended by Matt Burkett in his book. From whatever baseline you have established, you try to improve. Typical IPSC draw and fire times are under 1 second (regarded as a good time). This is WAY above the time needed for someone to react and pump you full of lead, especially as he is going to be about 10 feet from you. Peter. Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong; | |||
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Sorry I need to clarify my post. The IPSC draw time stated, included reaction time, and is from the surrender position. However, it does use a holster that keeps the gun away from the body ie. it is not a concealed draw. The video and stated time of 36/100 presumably does NOT include reaction time as the individual has the initiative and initiates the action. Peter. Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong; | |||
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Peter, 2/10 reaction time is very fast reflexes indeed. I'll stand by my 1/2-3/4 as avg. Anything under 1/2sec. is really fast. Remember, you know the buzzer is going off, you have a tiny reaction time advantage. When I was in LEA work, we trained doing gun take aways & you can slap a drawn pistol away fromt eh kill zone & draw & fire just about when the other guys gun goes off w/ abit of practice. LIFE IS NOT A SPECTATOR'S SPORT! | |||
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One thing we're all missing is that this guy trained in order to do that one operation, which is to kill his target. Not identify for consideration any others around him, his focus is only readying the weapon and shooting the target, that is ONE target. An assassin is not you all, nor I. Yea I can draw and hit a target less than 25ft away in less than a second from a concealed carry rig with my back facing the target, so what if he can out do me by about 1/2 second. You will not be able to respond that quickly if someone is coming to KILL YOU. If you watch the video somewhere after a minute, you'll see him do what a lot of new quick shooters do -- move to far off in the arch of motion and have to get back on line, that's the only chance you have to move out of his line of fire. You can move into him, or tangent, but never away. Nice video, gives me new ideas for training, thanks. | |||
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