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Lyon & Lyon .577 BP
17 June 2011, 06:21
John HipwellLyon & Lyon .577 BP
My new toy a Lyon & Lyon .577 BP express top lever hammer rifle. Barrels are marked: “LYON & LYON. 16 CHOWRINGEE ROAD< CALCUTTA “ and “JAs. LYON LATE WITH JAs. Purdey & SONS. LONDON” She has 28 inch barrels and a lovely full rib.
I even have three original KYNOCH rds with the copper tubed lead bullet so loved by “Pondoro”. I think that I will be able to use new .577 NE brass from Jamison. Is there any one here that knows a source for lead bullets? I think I will try and develop a “Nitro for black” load, she would be an interesting girl to take to Africa. From all reports she has taken at least one tiger in her life.
Call Dave Powell, who owns Gunsinternational.com. He always helps me out with questions regarding the early BP and Nitro for Black rifles. Great looking piece, and in a caliber that can still be used in Africa on DG. A 650gr bullet at 1,650-1,700 fps or so with a smokeless load will do it!
I had LBT make several molds for 577s.
17 June 2011, 17:59
Bill/OregonWow, what a lovely double you have there. I briefly owned a Greener Martini in .577 3-inch. Only shot it a couple of times as it was one of those projects that is now in the hands of another Martini enthusiast, but it was very pleasant to shoot indeed. NEI has some molds worth looking at, and you make find yours performs well with one of the various Minie molds depending on chamber/bore/groove specs.
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17 June 2011, 18:05
tarawaI purchased a 650gr mold from Mr Powell. If I was going purchase a new mold, I would contact Tom at Accurate Molds.
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17 June 2011, 22:51
JCS271I used LBT in Moyie,Idaho for my 650gr .577 mold. Great workmanship and customer service.
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18 June 2011, 00:56
Dutch44I does like that rifle!
Dutch
18 June 2011, 02:55
BigFiveJackquote:
Originally posted by Dutch44:
I does like that rifle!
Dutch
Darn TOOTIN'!!!
Jack
OH GOD! {Seriously, we need the help.}
John
Do you know the history of the gun ?
reason I ask is it looks very familiar to one that was over here a while back which was also restocked.
I liked it as it was a top lever hammer gun.
I just don't think I have any photos of it
so can't do a visual check.
Anyway, good pick up.
.
19 June 2011, 09:14
NakihunterVery nice! I hope you hunt something mean & nasty with that one!
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19 June 2011, 15:55
JohnDLLovely rifle, that.
Thanks for sharing.
20 June 2011, 07:05
NitrodaveJohn,
Send rigmike a PM. He moulds his own .577bpe slugs and is most experienced with the 2.75", 3", and Snyder.
Many reference the 650gr slug for the .577bpe 3", and it was common, but H&H won the famous field trials with a 502gr slug. With today's hard cast alloys, a 500gr .577 slug at 1800fps will hammer them.
Some .577's were regulated for lighter bullets. Does yours have the load engraved on it?
ND

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21 June 2011, 01:35
50 CalshtrJohn,
Love the looks of that rifle, I think top lever hammer guns are about as classy as they come. In my 577 3" I'm using an old 610 gr NEI mould Walt made for me by running one of they're standard, I think it was a 570 gr, reamers a bit deeper in the mould blocks. Using Ross Seyfrieds 40 % formula of 4198 and about 17 grains of dacron it shoots great. You do have to use magnum primers however to avoid hang fires. I've found this to be true in my 577/500 #2 also, I think it has to do with the larger interior base diameter as standard primers work in my 500.
Again, great looking rifle, have fun.
Best.