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Looked at one of each. Sabatti's. 470NE was a bit heavier. Soooo, if you were thinking about getting one or the other, but were undecided, why choose one over the other? Pro's and con's on each caliber please. I have a 50AK Sharps clone, so I have moulds for the 50's, but getting moulds for a 470 won't be much trouble. Thanks DRSS Beretta 45-70 belgian mag Tikka 512S 9.3 x 74R Baikal o/u 30-06 Looking for next one | ||
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Rockrat, You know my answer, plus you can come over and reload the 500 at my place till you get set up. I've been hearing the Sabatti in the 500 is light per calibre in the 500 that would be my only con on the 500 which is easily fixed. If you need some well placed weight in the 500 I have some 3/8 tungsten rod that can be placed behind the metal in the forend (thus it's between the hands and simple drilling) and add some in the grip cap of the stock (route out the wood underneath and add the tungsten) the balance of the rifle will not be compromised and you can get the rifle to 11-11.5 lbs which is a pig for Will but about the right weight for most folk. The 500 is more than a marginal step above the 450-470 class of calibres when it comes to killing/stopping effects, I can objectively see the difference in the field with ele and especially buff. Anyway, the 470 is a fine killing calibre in the right hands, your choice. "An individual with experience is never at the mercies of an individual with an argument" | |||
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Both are great cartridges and will work well on any game. If I were going to travel with it the 470 would make a better choice because it is much easier to find 470 ammo than 500. The 470 also has a better range of bullets to use. In penetration tests that you will see soon on Terminals the two performed about the same. Sam | |||
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You understand this is only my opinion but the Sabatti is too light for either of those chamberings! If it were me, and i wanted a Sabatti for the occasional elephant, and lots of Cape buffalo, I would buy the Sabatti chambered for the 450NE 3 1/4". Having said that, my favorite chambering in a double rifle from .450 up is the 500NE, but in that chambering I want the rifle to weigh the right amount when I buy it. Also IMO, the quickest way to destroy the handling of a double rifle is adding weight in the wrong places! Between the two you are asking about the 470NE makes more sense, but the 450NE is no whimp! ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith | |||
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Mac how about the 450/400 for the same purpose you stated, lots of buffalo and maybe, maybe an elephant? jorge USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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weight is easy to fix just add a little as(rockrat) stated if it is needed. bore size as always is a personal preference. if you can hit what your aiming at then caliber is just a number. you could use a howitzer if you wanted but if you can't hit what your aiming at it's just a nice paperweight just my opinion | |||
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Thought about the 450NE, but I came across a Beretta 45-70 that someone rechambered to 45-70 Belgian mag, which is nearly identical to a 45-100. It will push 405 gr slugs to 1900fps, so thinking different caliber. Haven't ruled out the 450NE ,but as dirklawyer will attest, as I have met him since he lives just down the road, I am kind of a big guy (6'3" & 300lbs) and broad of shoulders and kind of like the larger calibers. DRSS Beretta 45-70 belgian mag Tikka 512S 9.3 x 74R Baikal o/u 30-06 Looking for next one | |||
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The 470 looks more sexy than the 500! I think you would be happy with either. Double Rifle Shooters Society | |||
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I bought the Sabatti 500 NE for specific use on Ele, but would also use it on Buff. The 500 has a dramatically different effect on Ele than the 450 - 470 class, according to my research. As to weight, I found it way too light for caliber. I sent it to JJ Perodeau at Champlin for some mods, including additional weight via Mercury Recoil Reducer(s). Awaiting its return sometime this week, with great expectations. BTW, my hunting partner came to the same caliber decision and bought the Sabatti in the 500 NE and also sent it to JJ for similar mods and weight. Mike ______________ DSC DRSS (again) SCI Life NRA Life Sables Life Mzuri IPHA "To be a Marine is enough." | |||
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I don't think there is a "better" choice. I have a Searcy .470 NE, but owned a Krieghoff .500 NE before that. You could always buy one of each, do a four or five year test, and sell the one you like least... Rich DRSS 470 NE and 9,3x74R | |||
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