I tried to get my wife to buy this for my birthday but she wouldn't budge. I don't think I'll ever see one for this price ever again.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Aucti....aspx?Item=359875027

I like it and you are right; cheap for any H&H.

dpcd,

The one worry that I had about the gun was the lack of information about the bores. Hopefully it gets posted again and someone here on AR can enjoy it for another hundred years.

"The rifling is strong, and the bore on both barrels is in remarkably good condition for a rifle of this age"

Direct quote from the sale ad.

The forend isn't original from the looks of it and poorly fitted too boot! I'd have to look that one over very close before I paid that for it even with the H&H name.

Well it's back on.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Aucti....aspx?Item=361793237

Now that srose mentioned the fore end, it looks terrible. Looks as though someone will be into the gun at least another thousand to fix up.

Yep, forend doesnt go with the rifle, the serial number supports this. Also the front sight hood and grip cap dont belong. Id still love to get my hands on it...and since its unoriginal id have to stock it to fit. The proportions and lines are great other than the forend.

Neat gun. Looks like it had a hard life.

Looks like a money pit. $4K for a basket case is a lot of coin, buy the gun as you see it today, not the name.

It looks like it sold at one time for $7275 but has been relisted: http://www.gunbroker.com/Aucti....aspx?Item=350825278

Could it be that somebody didn't like what he got?

I'd say so.

Agree re the fore end.

The replacement screw isn't a worry as that can easily be re done.

As someone else said, it could be a bit of a money pit.

I wouldn't want to buy it, but I'd love to buy it a beer and hear the stories it could tell.

Interesting rifle, but seriously in need of a lot of work. A new forend is just the beginning of what it needs. For the right price it would be worth restoring to shooting condition. I wouldn't pay more than $1000.00 for it as it is now. By the time you repair the standing breech, put the barrels back on face, make a new forend iron and forend you would be over 4k. I would be surprised if the ribs aren't loose.. So I would plan on stripping and re-laying the ribs then regulating it.
Ken said it best.

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Looks like a money pit. $4K for a basket case is a lot of coin, buy the gun as you see it today, not the name.

Ken

A costly restoration, but boy what a rifle it could be! Too many projects, too little time. I'd love to do that one for a client.
Steve

I see that the seller is the same for both the "sold" auction and the current auction. May have been returned to the seller by a dissatisfied buyer.

Yes, probably so. Once in hand, the faults are readily apparent.

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Originally posted by skb:
A costly restoration, but boy what a rifle it could be! Too many projects, too little time. I'd love to do that one for a client.
Steve

I know you would!
I am learning to let some others take on these charity cases

What is the deal with the breech shims? Never saw that. The engraving matches up to it. Awfully odd.

Re the Shims, you occasionally see them on some English guns.


Re the bores, he says "The rifling is strong, and the bore on both barrels is in remarkably good condition for a rifle of this age."

But if you look at the face of the gun in the photos, you will see a lot of burning and erosion on the face from blow back around the primer.

To get that level of erosion I reckon that gun would have fired quite a few rounds and probably from the early days which means the bores aren't likely to be nice and shiny !!!

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To get that level of erosion I reckon that gun would have fired quite a few rounds and probably from the early days which means the bores aren't likely to be nice and shiny !!!

Corrosive primers.

Exactly.


That gun looks like it was a best quality
when it was made, strap over comb etc.

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I am learning to let some others take on these charity cases

gee after looking at the last 2 mausers you bought I thought you had taken up charity work as a new hobby

Hey, one of those Mausers is a good gun
Plus, the money you would need to sink into this Holland could buy you a pretty damn nice Mauser! Or two!