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20 January 2010, 06:46
Texas Blue Devil
Cabela Merkel Double Rifles - Regulation Load??
Does anyone know the regulation loads for the Cabela Model of Merkel DR's in 470 NE and 500 NE.

Thanks!!


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20 January 2010, 18:46
MJines
Mine was regulated with Wolfgang Romy ammo as I recall. That was four or five years ago though.


Mike
23 January 2010, 22:29
Texas Blue Devil
This past week a buddy of mine from the northeast bought one of these slightly used in 500 nitro. It weighs 9 pounds and 12 ounces. That sure seems light.


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24 January 2010, 06:49
Bill Cooley
Merkel DR's in 500 NE tend to be light for caliber. I think a .500 should be in the 11to 11.5 pound range. You will have outhers tell you it should be lighter.
Bill


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24 January 2010, 07:27
MJines
I have said before, you will be glad they are not heavier once you have carried it for seven hours in the bush. If you are buying it to shoot at the range, buy a 12 pound rifle. If you are buying it to carry in the bush, buy the 10 pound rifle.


Mike
24 January 2010, 14:06
500N
quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
I have said before, you will be glad they are not heavier once you have carried it for seven hours in the bush. If you are buying it to shoot at the range, buy a 12 pound rifle. If you are buying it to carry in the bush, buy the 10 pound rifle.



Or just HTFU and build some muscle.

Light guns kick like a mule and are harder to hold steady and take longer to recover for the 2nd shot.

The difference between 10 and 11 lbs is peanuts and with a bit of fitness you shouldn't have to worry about it.
24 January 2010, 16:40
MJines
Thank you for today's health message Jack LaLanne. Have you taken a look at the profile of most of the folks hunting in Africa these days? If you think they walked off the floor as trainers at Gold's Gym you need to check your eyeglasses prescription. Many will be doing good just to carry their own rifle if it weighs 9 pounds.

. . . and AHYU PTR and another thing BIZZB, LEUN. Sincerely, TOCG


Mike
24 January 2010, 17:44
Mississippian
yuck jumping


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24 January 2010, 18:35
KT29
quote:
Posted 24 January 2010 16:40 Hide Post
Thank you for today's health message Jack LaLanne. Have you taken a look at the profile of most of the folks hunting in Africa these days? If you think they walked off the floor as trainers at Gold's Gym you need to check your eyeglasses prescription. Many will be doing good just to carry their own rifle if it weighs 9 pounds.

. . . and AHYU PTR and another thing BIZZB, LEUN. Sincerely, TOCG

Now there's probably the most honest observation I've ever read on this forum. clap
24 January 2010, 18:41
dogcat
yuck

Don't mess with Mike, he is from Texas.
28 January 2010, 22:37
MacD37
quote:
Originally posted by Texas Blue Devil:
Does anyone know the regulation loads for the Cabela Model of Merkel DR's in 470 NE and 500 NE.

Thanks!!


What difference does it make where the Merkel double rifle was baught? All Merkel double rifles are regulated with the same ammo in any given chambering! As far as I know all 470NE Safaris were regulated with Federal factory ammo. and as Mike says the 500NE with Wolfgang Romy factory ammo.

Mike seems to have a very good load for his 500NE K-gun, and I assume for his 500NE Searcy, and Merkel as well, and can most likely point you in the right dirrection for a starting load to start a work up load for the 500NE rifle! In any event the only way, I'm aware of, to get the absolute best from a double rifle is by working up a very carefully put together hand load for it! It is very rare for any double rifle to shoot to it's best accuracy with factory ammo.


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28 January 2010, 23:16
Bill73
Mike,
that is one humorous post and I agree with you,no disrespect to anybody old or young,if recoil is a concern for some people,I would personally just go to a smaller caliber than lug around a sherman tank all day just because its easier to shoot !!
quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
Thank you for today's health message Jack LaLanne. Have you taken a look at the profile of most of the folks hunting in Africa these days? If you think they walked off the floor as trainers at Gold's Gym you need to check your eyeglasses prescription. Many will be doing good just to carry their own rifle if it weighs 9 pounds.

. . . and AHYU PTR and another thing BIZZB, LEUN. Sincerely, TOCG



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30 January 2010, 07:25
Bill Cooley
See I told you.


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30 January 2010, 21:17
Texas Blue Devil
Mac,

I don't know if makes a difference or not. Last year, I was told by the Cabela's folks that Merkel made some "special" run of doubles for them. On the Cabelas website, they are listed as Merkel 140 Cabelas.

I'm not in the market for a Merkel Double. I ordered a Searcy PH in 450 NE late last year.

The reason for my post,... I was asked this question by a friend in my industry. He's smart guy, but foolishly thinks I know something about double rifles just because I ordered one. Big Grin

He actually bought a Merkel 500 Nitro, but not from Cableas. He said the recoil was less than his 460 Weatherby.


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30 January 2010, 21:50
MacD37
quote:
Originally posted by Texas Blue Devil:
Mac,

I don't know if makes a difference or not. Last year, I was told by the Cabela's folks that Merkel made some "special" run of doubles for them. On the Cabelas website, they are listed as Merkel 140 Cabelas.

I'm not in the market for a Merkel Double. I ordered a Searcy PH in 450 NE late last year.

The reason for my post,... I was asked this question by a friend in my industry. He's smart guy, but foolishly thinks I know something about double rifles just because I ordered one. Big Grin

He actually bought a Merkel 500 Nitro, but not from Cableas. He said the recoil was less than his 460 Weatherby.



What difference does it make where the Merkel double rifle was baught? .[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

I think the extent of "SPECIAL" for Cabela's was engraving their name on them, and maybe different sights! I'm sure the rifles were regulated the same as any other Merkel 500NE! Of course they may have had them regulated with ammo that Cabela's sells, but I doubt it! Factory ammo for the 500NE is not found in every little store in the USA, so is, for the most part, a handloading proposition!

In regard to the 460 Weatherby, OMO that cartridge, and the rifle it comes in from Wby is as useless as tits on a tomecat! I won a 460 Wby rifle in a super bowl pool one year, and promtly traded it for a gun safe without ever taking it out of the box. Big Grin


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02 February 2010, 09:22
Use Enough Gun
The Cabela's Merkels have ejectors, upgraded wood, a steel grip cap and some of them have mercury recoil reducers in them. A friend of mine nearly bought one at the SCI convention. Not a bad deal if you get the upgrades for price of the regular Merkel double rifle.